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Unread postby Derek » 4 July 2020, 06:18

But in this case, the thing he'd need to change is being an online influencer. The fact that he still has an instagram proves his soul is rotten.
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 4 July 2020, 06:28

Derek wrote:But in this case, the thing he'd need to change is being an online influencer. The fact that he still has an instagram proves his soul is rotten.

He’s just using his privilege as a reformed white man and father to reach a wider audience. Doesn’t he get some credit for boning a mulata and giving his child an obscure and misspelled Hebrew name?
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Unread postby Derek » 4 July 2020, 06:33

Oh so now it's "woke" to contribute to the Great Replacement?
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 4 July 2020, 06:36

Derek wrote:Oh so now it's "woke" to contribute to the Great Replacement?

If you can’t beat em, bone em. :shrug:



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Unread postby Jasper1 » 27 July 2020, 10:18

René wrote:I have to say, though, it's a fact that most of the guys I'm attracted to have white skin, but I recognise that that's a product of lack of exposure to people who look different. I know I have the capacity to be attracted to people who look different, and it does happen occasionally. I would never write "no blacks/Asians" or "whites only" or anything like that, but I think when people do that, it's more often a result of ignorance than of actual racism. I don't think it's usually wilful discrimination.


Only 3% of the UK population is black. 14% non white, so i concur with your point about lack of exposure and ignorance being a factor here. Of course racism exists also.

In London, the ethnic mix is ~44% non-white and people mix far better than I’ve seen in other cities, and countries I’ve travelled to. It’s one of the reasons why I love London.

If someone goes as far to write “no blacks/Asians” therefore singling out a specific group of people then to me this is not ignorance.

Anyway, the comparison between gay rights and black oppression is a difficult comparison for me to get my head around. Separate subjects with different drivers and solutions.
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Unread postby Dave67 » 28 July 2020, 05:17

swayinginthewind wrote:
ThatNomad wrote:I think the saddest thing about the intersection of Black rights and Gay rights is that in our own community, a community used to oppression and marginalization, we won't take a stand against the abject racism that exists within our community. Almost no one will stand up to the racist garbage with the profiles stating basically white only. Almost no one will stand up to the gay media/porn companies and tell them they will either change or fade into irrelevancy. And in regards to almost every public aspect of the LGBTQ community it is almost entirely whitewashed, nearly completely erasing and silencing the presence and voices of POC in the community.

So, while it's easier to be gay than to be black, it's also, simultaneously so much harder than either to be both. And we really need to work on solidarity and uplifting of those minority groups within our own community, and removing the racists that exist, who have been given a pass with the use of preference as an excuse.


This conversation is important. As a POC, this resonates with me, because whether the problem be concentrated in the United States, or even just in Florida - it is a problem. As a Latin man within this community, I've seen how white men are at the helm of the hierarchy. They'll say they're into Latinos but for the most part it is white-passing Latinos, and if they show interest in the more "exotic" looking Latin men, it is almost a fetishization. You know when that is the case, admittedly not always, but the ignorance seeps through. "You have sexy Latin lips" or (insert any other stereotype). In other words, I'm not okay with being someone's token "Latin lover", when I'm way more complex than my ethnicity. I shouldn't have to fit into a mold, to feel attractive. There are men, as stated before who make an active effort to isolate "only" other white men, or other Latin men, etc, and I would argue it has all to do with a deep-rooted racial-biased. If you live in a country where the demographic is limited, by all means, you have no choice (though it isn't a pass). But, when you live in a melting-pot of cultures, ethnicities, and races - it's a clear decision being made. It's like buying a pack of M&M's and rather than just eating what comes out of the pouch, you pour them all out, separate them by color, and choose to only eat primary colors.

When I come across group pictures or profiles of gay men with not one POC -in countries, states, cities where I know there is abundance in diversity- it is unsettling. We fight for inclusivity, but exclude demographics within the minority group we already are. Be as it may, if we are going to preach unity and pride, it should be full-scope. We should be proud of ALL the colors, shapes, sizes, ages within our community.

Again, I'm speaking from personal experience in my local community, but I wouldn't put it past any country in either hemisphere to have this problem - regardless of where it is on the scale. For the ones in those countries who are the few experiencing it, it's important they know that the conversation is taking place. I can't even imagine what the experience for our black members might be, or even Asians, as they too face significant racism and discrimination. I can only empathize with them, because it is difficult for them to get the recognition and love they deserve. I can only hope that this problem finds solution, not just in a handful of countries, not just in America, but worldwide. As a worldwide community with influence and visibility that continues to grow, we can definitely lend a supporting hand to the BLM, be it from whatever part of the world it comes. It has been a beautiful thing to witness so far.

I hope all of that made sense, I've been needing to vent this frustration for a while. :runaway:


Sorry but here in the States BLM is looked at as a terrorist organization, they destroy property even property of POC by burning businesses that POC have worked yrs to build. Violence is NEVER OK for a movement. If MLK was alive today he would not approve of what BLM is doing.
I will also say the Racism that the World thinks exists in the US is not as bad as the leftist media in the US portrays it to be.
I have lived in the Southern US all my life and have seen very little Racism. And yes I have witnessed racism by both whites and blacks. Blacks here now have even told me they don't like the Mexicans moving into their neighborhoods and now know how whites felt about blacks moving into theirs.

I have many more examples. RACISM is not a problem in America, the leftist lying media is the problem and along with Democrats they stir the Racism Pot every chance they get.
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 28 July 2020, 07:06

See? And you doubted my “ok boomer” comment earlier.
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Unread postby Derek » 28 July 2020, 07:17

Dave67 wrote:Sorry but here in the States BLM is looked at as a terrorist organization

62% of likely voters have a favorable view of BLM. That number has risen sharply since May.

You might be a little out of touch there bud
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Unread postby Dave67 » 28 July 2020, 08:06

You believe polls? Hillary was gonna win by how much? LMAO
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Unread postby Dave67 » 28 July 2020, 08:07

Derek wrote:
Dave67 wrote:Sorry but here in the States BLM is looked at as a terrorist organization

62% of likely voters have a favorable view of BLM. That number has risen sharply since May.

You might be a little out of touch there bud



Out of touch? I am around all kinds everyday and live in the so called notorious racist south. How can that be? Out of touch?
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 28 July 2020, 13:55

You realize Hillary won the popular vote and most polls got the national average right? Predicting electoral college victories is more subjective in a number of ways including predicting voter turnout which can’t really be known until the day after. But what are you suggesting by that example, exactly? That we ought to ditch data, and empiricism more generally, and instead embrace...what? Gut instinct and intuition? Anecdotes? Revelation? So because you canvassed mullet-donning inbreds at your local diner who think Antifa, MS-13 and George Soros present the most pressing the threats to America we should be giving ultrasounds to middle aged neckbeards to test what their gut instincts tell us about the nature of reality? Christ. “Out of touch” is far too nice. You couldn’t be any more of a caricature of your generation.
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Unread postby biguy87 » 28 July 2020, 13:58

Dave67 wrote:Sorry but here in the States BLM is looked at as a terrorist organization, they destroy property even property of POC by burning businesses that POC have worked yrs to build. Violence is NEVER OK for a movement. If MLK was alive today he would not approve of what BLM is doing.
I will also say the Racism that the World thinks exists in the US is not as bad as the leftist media in the US portrays it to be.
I have lived in the Southern US all my life and have seen very little Racism. And yes I have witnessed racism by both whites and blacks. Blacks here now have even told me they don't like the Mexicans moving into their neighborhoods and now know how whites felt about blacks moving into theirs.

I have many more examples. RACISM is not a problem in America, the leftist lying media is the problem and along with Democrats they stir the Racism Pot every chance they get.


Translation- I live in one of the most racist countries in the world and I'm OK with it so I'm going to do everything in my power to belittle anyone and everyone who tries to do anything about it, including 'the leftist media', which isn't really leftist at all it just seems that way when viewed from the far right.

The same BS I've been hearing a lot in this country of late.
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Unread postby Derek » 28 July 2020, 14:57

Dave67 wrote:You believe polls? Hillary was gonna win by how much? LMAO

Do you have a problem with that survey? Or are you going to say any source that you don't already agree with is worthless?

You are out of touch. Americans by and large sympathize with BLM, which isn't synonymous with the protestors.
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Unread postby Brenden » 28 July 2020, 15:12

Derek wrote:
Dave67 wrote:You believe polls? Hillary was gonna win by how much? LMAO

Do you have a problem with that survey? Or are you going to say any source that you don't already agree with is worthless?

You are out of touch. Americans by and large sympathize with BLM, which isn't synonymous with the protestors.

Who themselves aren’t the same as the rioters.
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Re: Gay oppression was where bl@ck oppression is now

Unread postby Jasper1 » 28 July 2020, 16:54

Derek wrote:
Dave67 wrote:Sorry but here in the States BLM is looked at as a terrorist organization

62% of likely voters have a favorable view of BLM. That number has risen sharply since May.

You might be a little out of touch there bud


You sir are the master of one liners! :bowdown:
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Unread postby Yeauxleaux » 29 July 2020, 14:23

poolerboy0077 wrote:
Derek wrote:In America, I'd say it's now definitely easier to be gay than black overall

You know this truth is low key pissing off every attention-seeking gay who always secretly wanted a dramatic coming out and feel like an oppressed minority. In other words, young white gays.
I feel like we're at a point where LGBT people with that mentality have to actively look for shit to complain about now. Enter terms like "heteronormativity" and complaining about "internalised homophobic" gay men who desire monogamy for themselves or aren't personally into drag.

My gay rights goals are met in my country, I can now live as normal and boring a life in spite of being gay as I can wish for, we can go home now. I'm still vocal on behalf of LGBT people in countries where they really are still oppressed, our work isn't done there, but that's not my experience as a Millennial western gay man and I'm thankful for that. My goal isn't to be a rebel without a cause and tear down every norm and standard in society, I'm not invested in that, it doesn't benefit me or make me happy.

On this day, there's bigger issues in the world
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