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Unread postby Willie » 7 October 2019, 16:26

When the original Kinsey report was published, it indicated that about 10% of the male population had same-sex encounters to the state of orgasm. But that was right after WW2 whem most of the men had been in the services.
America has really changed since then, and homosexuality is tolerated and de-cri.inalized.
I wonder what stats an updated study would show?
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Re: Gay stats, 21st century

Unread postby Eryx » 7 October 2019, 16:37

I think when they said 10%, they were estimating, because virtually no one was out of the closet yet. The last poll that was taken in Rio yielded 14% of OUT gay men, 8% gay women. Rio probably attracts more of the LGBT than normal, because it's a touristic and famously open city, but I don't think the numbers run too far from those.

I'd wager that, counting bisexuals, gays and closeted married men, we're next to 20% of the population. But that's my own educated guess, I have nothing to back it up concretely.
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Re: Gay stats, 21st century

Unread postby Willie » 7 October 2019, 17:06

Eryx wrote:I think when they said 10%, they were estimating, because virtually no one was out of the closet yet. The last poll that was taken in Rio yielded 14% of OUT gay men, 8% gay women. Rio probably attracts more of the LGBT than normal, because it's a touristic and famously open city, but I don't think the numbers run too far from those.

I'd wager that, counting bisexuals, gays and closeted married men, we're next to 20% of the population. But that's my own educated guess, I have nothing to back it up concretely.


I think Kinsey was sampling USA residents, mainly from.the Midwest.
Your guess is as good as mine, but I'm really only interested in legitimate studies.
My own (worthless) guess is 15% of US population is gay, with another 5-10% opportunistic.
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Unread postby Yeauxleaux » 7 October 2019, 17:15

I think it's way lower than this tbh. Estimates in most very tolerant, accepting countries, where men generally don't stay closeted, is only around 5% normally, sometimes a little lower than that. I also don't see many apparently-straight guys who really give me the vibe that they're closeted gay men.

I don't know what's in the water in Brazil though, you do seem to have A LOT of gay men.
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Re: Gay stats, 21st century

Unread postby Capt._Trips » 7 October 2019, 23:23

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_de ... ted_States

A Gallup poll estimates about 4.5% of the population. But as the article says that estimate can vary greatly depending on circumstances. But id say that that sounds about right based on my own observations.


There's another Gallup poll that states that the millennial group and younger have a tendency to greatly overestimate the LGBT population

Imo we will never get a true count given suppressed homosexuals and other closeted that just won't answer truthfully for whatever reasons.

I tend to believe the more recent surveys because again as the article states having anonymity over the internet will give more truthful responses
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Re: Gay stats, 21st century

Unread postby Willie » 8 October 2019, 00:52

I wish there were some real Kinsey quality studies published.
Personally, i dont believe only 5%. There is certainly a difference between "hard-core" men who lead gay lifestyles and those who suck an occasional cock when the opportunity presents itself. NNot to mention all th e Seniors.
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Unread postby Capt._Trips » 8 October 2019, 02:11

What makes you believe so strongly in the kinsey scale?

Your also changing things a bit if you add an opportunistic heterosexual.

But your response is exactly why I don't think we will ever get a true number. Imo it's probably closer to 6 or 7% but only if people admit it.

Oh most seniors have joined us internet people. Willingly or not they have.
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Re: Gay stats, 21st century

Unread postby NvM » 8 October 2019, 10:28

the Kinsey is simplistic and sexuality is more 3 dimensional.
It is difficult to accurately sample single digit segments of the population.

Alfred Kinsey was all about the early 1950's and that was almost 70 years ago. His work did not adhere to modern statistical sampling methods. The 10% population figure likely just a guess. A few years ago US estimates were 4-8% but you could assume the number would vary and is higher for urban areas.

On a side line:
when you compare recent US same sex marriage licenses against traditional marriage applications for the same time period it is about 4%.
a semi recent map would look like this?
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Re: Gay stats, 21st century

Unread postby Eryx » 8 October 2019, 18:25

Very interesting, you guys! It makes me wonder: do bigger cities get a higher percentage of gay marriages and gay men who are out because we tend to flock to bigger cities for better opportunities of finding happiness or is it just because gay men in small towns aren't so eager to come out?

I'm inclined to think both? And then I can kind of see the 5% estimate being true.

Personally, though, it's really hard to find a group of 10 men in any capital here where at least one isn't gay or bisexual. That's why I have 20% in my head. But I could be very wrong, and it seems that way, from all that you've shared.
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Unread postby kenzie_matt » 9 October 2019, 09:56

I agree it would be a combination of the two, but guys in small towns are definitely more reluctant to come out. Especially here in South Africa. You will find that the Afrikaans people are a lot more hesitant in general, whether in a small town or a large city. A lot of it has to do with our cultural upbringing. Of course you can't say that what applies to one applies to all, but since I have this heritage and can speak to the culture.... so I would definitely add cultural stigmas to the list of factors that skew data in terms of the gay stats.
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