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Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Koftruecross » 25 June 2019, 16:17

It is impossible to quote scripture without eventually offending somebody. This is especially true concerning gay people....The most egregious example of this can be found in St. Paul's letter to the Romans where he asserts that gay people deserve to die..
As a gay Christian I have learned to reconcile myself with that particular passage. Exactly how I did that is irrelvant because everyone's spiritual journey is unique. Each must find his own way.
For many others reconciliation is difficult if not impossible. Some have been badly traumatized by the church. However their reclacitrance does not in any way deem them unworthy of the Grace of God... A quick definition of Grace is : God forgives us all even when we don't "deserve" it.....
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 25 June 2019, 16:40

Jesus is a huge diaper-clad flaming faggot. He never married, spends al his free time handling wood and hanging around with 12 bears. I don’t think he’s in any position to be casting judgment on gays. He needs to work on himself first. Thankfully he’s make-believe.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby mxguy01 » 25 June 2019, 16:51

Gays have been persecuted by the so called Christians for some time. Other religious organizations the same. I say we burn every straight-religious person at the stake so we eradicate it from society. The only religious persons left will be gay. At that point we will promote anti-straight speech and persecute them into the closet where they belong.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Koftruecross » 25 June 2019, 17:36

I knew this was a sore subject for sure. However I think it was one worth bringing up because many gay Christians soft pedal around it.. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying anything bad about them.. I knew there was a risk in bringing this up.. This thread is probably headed to the Wasteland because it's so painful...
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Koftruecross » 25 June 2019, 17:36

The Grace of God is not free. It comes at an extremely steep price to pay..
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Marmaduke » 25 June 2019, 18:14

The bible is just an example of what happens when the publisher of a book neglects their duties. So many different authors, the inevitable lack of continuity. It’s just not a very well put together thing. It’s not aged well either. It’s like James Joyce’s Ulysses, everyone tells you it’s great, so you pick it up and then suddenly realise that you can’t follow what the fuck is happening and have no interest in reading to the end.

It’s high time that the Catholic Church starts work on a new release. Bible 2. We can have it written by one author. Someone accessible, like Dan Brown. It would free them to write a whole new story that’s relevant to today. It’s time to move on from Jesus, find a new character to get behind. A relatable hero, someone called something normal, like Justin or Steve. He can work contemporary miracles, like getting his average-wage-earning friend and affordable lease on a New York studio apartment.
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 25 June 2019, 18:24

You’re all going to hell but our Lord Justin Bieber loves you. Cocks be upon Him.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby GaySpacePirateKing » 25 June 2019, 18:51

Koftruecross wrote:It is impossible to quote scripture without eventually offending somebody.


I mean when your hammering out lofty prayers and bible verses whenever someone upsets you your way past caring about being offensive are you not.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby GaySpacePirateKing » 25 June 2019, 18:54

poolerboy0077 wrote:You’re all going to hell but our Lord Justin Bieber loves you. Cocks be upon Him.


Which one hell or heaven doesn't have Justin Bieber in it, cause I'd rather go there. :lol:
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby mxguy01 » 25 June 2019, 19:34

I wonder what happens to the apps in after life. Does Grindr go to Heaven and Adam4Adam go to hell?

How does one have sex without a body? God did it so is he not going to let us in on that little secret?

Oppsie, we have an issue. All gays, well the ones that practice gay sexual acts, OMG, they all get to go to hell.

Like I'd want to be in heaven with all the asexuals, the ones that have not finally resolved their repression, etc. NFW - send my bottom to hell!
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Jzone » 25 June 2019, 19:38

I do not understand how Christians reconcile tolerance with the words of Paul in Romans. Thankfully, good people of most faiths (not fundamentalists) place their own moral sense above that expressed in ancient texts and teachings. While it may be true that everyone's spiritual journey (whatever that is) is unique, it seems to me that to identify as a Christian and be tolerant of gay sexuality requires some significant denial or twisted justifications.

Don't get me wrong — I'm glad there are denominations, pastors, ministers, rabbis, etc, that teach tolerance. I just don't understand their reasoning in relation to the Bible. Yes, Jesus is said to have taught love and general tolerance, but he never clarified or corrected conflicts with homosexuality in the Old Testament. Also, it is taught that either Jesus, his father, or their wispy counterpart (the holy threesome) inspired or at least approved of everything written in the Bible — including Paul's message in Romans.

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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby GaySpacePirateKing » 25 June 2019, 19:46

Jzone wrote:Go to hell for the company, heaven for the climate.


Go to hell for the orgies, and heaven for what sitting on a cloud fapping off by yourself?
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby GaySpacePirateKing » 25 June 2019, 20:01

Then again watching porn in hell would be a pain as it must have a pretty bad wifi signal being under ground and all. Plus heaven does have buff guys with wings.

Ok I am officially converted. Take me sexy Jesus!
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Eryx » 25 June 2019, 20:29

I don't believe in the Christian god, in fact the bible is just another book that sells really well. There's nothing for me to reconcile with, in my mind it's simply a myth, much like any other past religions that we now teach our kids about as if they were as legitimate as Harry Potter.

I think Christianity and Islam are the most arrogant out there in believing they're the one true path, but there are many others that follow suit. If I had to believe any kind of fairy tale like that, I'd go for something with a better message.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby GaySpacePirateKing » 25 June 2019, 20:32

Eryx wrote:The bible is just another book that sells really well.


It is always useful to have a bible around... for wiping up jizz.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby GaySpacePirateKing » 25 June 2019, 20:34

oh wait gross fuck that sounds like something a catholic priest would say.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Koftruecross » 25 June 2019, 22:00

Eryx.. It is difficult believe in an abstract concept like God.. I will concede that religion is not based on logic. This is true no matter how much they philosophize it, canonize it or organize it.. The vast majority of people have to take it on faith.. ..However there does exist those rare exceptional cases of people who know without a doubt that there is a GOD up above and a devil below....For them it is not an abstract concept....If they initially are agnostic or atheistic it is NOT a pleasant experience for them come to know such knowledge....And then it gets easier for them over time..
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby mxguy01 » 25 June 2019, 22:43

Jzone wrote:...it seems to me that to identify as a Christian and be tolerant of gay sexuality requires some significant denial or twisted justifications.
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Go to hell for the company, heaven for the climate.


To your first point that is exactly where my conversations with religious folks go unless I'm looking to avoid that discussion with a friend I don't want to quickly convert to an enemy. For as long as they belong to an institution that either out right condems or attemps to decieve about their crap beliefs with B.S. like - encouraging them to work towards "overcoming its harmful effects in their lives," and not allowing the sacraments to people who seek to justify homosexual activity - they can be the ones to rot in hell.

As for the others that actually are accepting, I can in return be tolerant of them.

Hey, the question really becomes, it is a dry heat in Hell? I kinda like rolling with the sinners now days. I'm having way more FUN. XD
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Derek » 25 June 2019, 22:58

Koftruecross wrote:For many others reconciliation is difficult if not impossible. Some have been badly traumatized by the church. However their reclacitrance does not in any way deem them unworthy of the Grace of God... A quick definition of Grace is : God forgives us all even when we don't "deserve" it.....

It sure is kind of God to forgive us for struggling to accept the parts of his holy book that describe us as irredeemably evil.
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Re: Reconciling Offensive Bible Scripture to Gay People.

Unread postby Koftruecross » 26 June 2019, 00:04

mxguy01..... Speaking of sacraments. The Catholic Church is one of the few that runs 360 degrees the full spectrum politically. On the extreme left there is The Catholic Worker and PAX Christie and then on the extreme right there is EWTN (a religious subsidiary of FOX News) and The Catholic League..
Then there is the wiredest, strangest.. breakaway independent Catholic Church that celebrates THE DARK MASS. (Not the satanic black mass but nearly as malevolent)
They belong in Ripley's Believe it or Not.. ..And every year for them is 1962...even though most of them were born after 1962...They are so far out there that they are not even part of the above mentioned circle.. I guess if 1962 was your favorite year this would be the church for you.. They are by far the most extreme homophobic. Fortunately their numbers are small.
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