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The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Spacekitty » 15 May 2020, 13:55

Yes, I know - this is a topic as old as... probably as old as sin (especially if it's part of a religious conviction. :lol: ). Let's just say this as a refreshed version with some new comments and inputs.

I live in South Africa and among some of our people it's part of a right of passage to manhood to get circumcised. And of course we also have people in our country of the Jewish faith. I however grew up in an environment where if no health issues came up requiring circumcision, you really wouldn't have it done. So that said, I never had the snip when I was younger.

I have to admit after growing up and starting my adult life, I did think of having it done. I liked the feel when then skin was pulled back. I thought about it a lot actually. Read a heck of a hot up about it as well. And it's there where I came upon the subject of "autocircumcision".

Since learning of it years ago I was quite surprised about how few people actually know what it means or what it is. Autocircumcision is training your foreskin to stay behind the head of your penis. This give the penis the appearance of being circumcised when no circumcision was ever done.

I tried to get into it about 5 years ago and got myself to get it right! And I love! I'm so happy I never actually got a circumcision. For me it feels so great and love the hint of "feeling" something during the day. You're way more aware of what's between your legs. Lol! Yes, in the beginning it's sensitive. And yes, then you start trying it sometimes a semi or boner can pop up, but you get use to it.

It's also really cool to still have the skin there when you wank or have sex and still have all those nerve endings - especially when it moves over the head. Normal day to day going about life I now never have the skin over anymore. When I shower I pull it over to clean properly but that's about it. The head is now always open.

Hubby's not circumcised and he told me a while ago he's so glad he convinced me not to get the snip before I found this trick. He had to have it done due to the skin starting to get to tight and not wanting to pull back anymore. He's ok not having it anymore but he does say he really miss the extra sensation.

Look, all this said I do know there are dude who says they did the snip later when they were adults and will never go back. I've also heard of guys say I did it as an adult and should never have done it. All I'm really trying to say - If you do have your skin and want to snip, perhaps try autocircumcision first to make sure that you really want it completely removed. And if you realize - heck, this skin really is just a waste for me! - then snip away. :lol: I have to add, the technique does take some time and practice to work and penises differ. We're all different. You might have to much skin or the rim of the head of your penis isn't that thick and it just doesn't want to work - but it worth a shot.

Oh, I forgot something! I'm a grower. Or let's say I was a definite grower. Now I'm borderline grower shower. :lol: When hard it's what it was but about 6 months from starting autocircumcision when flaccid I've gained about 2.5cm (1 inch) in length! FUCK YES, LOVING IT. :devil: It kind of makes sense. You shaft is trained to be more outside your body now when flaccid.

And guys... I you want to get the snip... be a man and ask around properly before going to any doc. If you have the guts and see a nice cut, ask - who was your doctor? You have one cock, don't fuck it up! :wide-eyed:

Would like to hear some new views on the subject and what you perhaps know and have learned on the subject of circumcision.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Eryx » 15 May 2020, 14:37

I think circumcision is abhorrent in all cases where it's not required for health reasons, as in phimosis, and even then, for most guys it would probably be easier to just cut part of the foreskin than all of it and things should be fine.

My boyfriend had phimosis as a kid and Brazilian doctors don't circumcise, they do sessions of pulling it out with anesthesia until the skin is stretched enough for the dick to open up naturally. He's never had issues with his foreskin again.

The only reason people think it's something that should be done due to aesthetics or "feeling" or "looking" better is because it was normalized in some parts of the world, but if the practice never existed, this discussion wouldn't even take place. It's the same with female circumcision in some African countries -- nearly all women get it and other women find it preferable, so it stays in place. Doesn't mean it's not horrible.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't pass up on a dude just because he's circumcised -- and I haven't in the past -- but I think it's absolutely unnecessary, it's mutilation and that's it. I prefer having skin to play with and I'd never get anything done to mine.

Autocircumcision as you said is an interesting concept, but it's not something I could do because my foreskin is naturally proportionate to my dick, so there isn't enough pressure from the skin around the head for it to ever stay up on its own, and I don't see the point. In fact, this got me to think about it some and realize that most guys I've met who were really white/European/American tend to have phimosis more when they don't get circumcisions or partial ones, so maybe that's why the practice got more common -- lots of people with the problem. Brazilians usually don't have issues with this, or if they did when they were kids, a medical professional just stretched it.

Conclusion: I'm completely against it and I don't see any benefit aside from fixing health problems. It's not more beautiful or anything like that. The only argument that could be made is it makes one less prone to get infected with HIV, but condoms and PrEP work better than that, it's not like being circumcised fixes the problem.

Now if Jews and Muslims want to keep doing it because muh religion, well, I hope they have fun with that.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Brenden » 15 May 2020, 14:43

Spacekitty wrote:I liked the feel when then skin was pulled back.

It only feels so good retracted because you're intact. Your foreskin has been, since birth, protecting your glans and keeping it soft and sensitive.

Spacekitty wrote:Look, all this said I do know there are dude who says they did the snip later when they were adults and will never go back.

Well yeah, you can't unscramble an egg. :P
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby harel » 15 May 2020, 17:07

Eryx wrote:Conclusion: I'm completely against it and I don't see any benefit aside from fixing health problems. It's not more beautiful or anything like that.

This is reasonable.

I understand and appreciate the religious rationale. However, nowadays, the health rationale for male circumcision is far less important than hundreds years ago (hygiene, sanitation). It is hard to say, but I suppose that male circumcision has more advantages for women than for men. For example, HPV infection does NOT result in cancer in men in very most cases, in women – this often results in cervical cancer. Actually, because of women, they are offering the HPV vaccination for adolescent boys in some countries.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Spacekitty » 18 May 2020, 08:18

Eryx wrote:I think circumcision is abhorrent in all cases where it's not required for health reasons, as in phimosis, and even then, for most guys it would probably be easier to just cut part of the foreskin than all of it and things should be fine.

My boyfriend had phimosis as a kid and Brazilian doctors don't circumcise, they do sessions of pulling it out with anesthesia until the skin is stretched enough for the dick to open up naturally. He's never had issues with his foreskin again.


FML... You're probably going to think I'm talking shit... but I never really tried to look if there is an actual medical description for it (phimosis). And besides from that I'm yet to hear of anyone that I know in my country that was ever told by a doctor that there are other option than cutting.

Steps / options:
* Supportive care - Monitoring for changes or improvement
* Medical procedure - Stretching of the foreskin
* Medications - Steroid
* Surgery - Circumcision

I told my hubby about this over the weekend. He's 38 now and had his circumcision done at 20. He said he's actually now upset and angry about it all. Other options was never even mentioned to him or looked at. Look, it is what it is now,... but it just feels so, so wrong... :shake:
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Spacekitty » 18 May 2020, 08:20

Brenden wrote:Well yeah, you can't unscramble an egg. :P


This had me in stitches. Very funny! :rofl: And true... :|
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Spacekitty » 18 May 2020, 08:35

And after all of this and you'll always have guys who would like to have it done for cosmetic reasons. I'm the kind of person who's paranoid about making irreversible changes to my body. Example - I always wanted a tattoo, but the idea of it being there for the rest of my life freaks me out. As much as I think I'll get something that's true to me, the guy who got a rose with barbwire tattoo 30 years ago now probably thinks WTF was this about again. LOL! I suppose each to his own hey. I do hope however my little post do help guys think about other options if they feel so strongly about making the call to cut purely for cosmetic reasons and possibility regretting it afterwards. You do hear of these cases.

We all have ideas and feeling and wants and preferences. And all that said - I do however feel extremely strongly about your body being your own and you yourself calling the shots. I feel it's wrong to have circumcisions done before a legal age and without the persons own consent, regardless of religious and cultural reasons. I've heard of way to many guys feeling very strongly about it done to them as a baby or a very young adult. I find it really sad...
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby John27 » 18 May 2020, 22:16

Spacekitty wrote:If you have the guts and see a nice cut, ask - who was your doctor?


I'm trying to imagine what would happen with this conversation here in the US if one were asking another guy in the gym locker room... There is that unwritten "Mind Your Own Business" rule here... I can't honestly imagine that conversation going well.

It would also be pointless asking. Almost all American men who are circumcised were circumcised as babies.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby John27 » 18 May 2020, 22:25

My generation of US men had a very high circumcision rate. I'm not sure the exact percentage, but I can say I've never seen anyone my age who is intact in a locker room setting. (Not that I'd look at other guys in a gym shower. Oh, no. Of course not. :lol:) So I'm in that odd position where circumcised looks normal, but intellectually I know it's not what nature intended.

I'm now opposed to routine infant circumcision. Unless there is really valid reason--and as a last resort.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby azureflame » 18 May 2020, 22:30

Not a fan of how circumsized penises look like. It kinda makes me nervous as if the poor thing was a burnt victim or sustained a heavy injury. Still, if of a guy wants a circumcision, that's on him.

However, keep your hands off babies. It amazes me people can cut off parts of their kids without medical need and not get punished by law.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby erti » 18 May 2020, 22:57

I like to play peak a boo with the head on a uncut dick. Really, IDC if a guy was or not. I wont circumcised my kids if I ever have any.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby John27 » 18 May 2020, 23:24

azureflame wrote:It amazes me people can cut off parts of their kids without medical need and not get punished by law.


it amazes me, too. Although it's accepted as "standard" here in the US, and a lot of people just don't question it. It has been such a standard thing for generations. And, of course, there are lots of arguments for "why it should be done." Everything from the trivial ("you want your boy to look like the other boys in the middle school locker room showers!"--even though showers are no longer required many if not most schools) to supposed health benefits (which are seemingly oblivious to the fact that men in other parts of the world are intact, and get by just fine).
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Spacekitty » 19 May 2020, 05:02

John27 wrote:
Spacekitty wrote:If you have the guts and see a nice cut, ask - who was your doctor?


I'm trying to imagine what would happen with this conversation here in the US if one were asking another guy in the gym locker room... There is that unwritten "Mind Your Own Business" rule here... I can't honestly imagine that conversation going well.

It would also be pointless asking. Almost all American men who are circumcised were circumcised as babies.


LOL! I get what your saying. I kinda had in the bad of my mind rather a situation of friends, family or sexual partners. I should have added that. You might have situations where you see other men naked in a safe environment. I myself is a closed relationship but we have had holiday or weekend trip or even pool events with family and / or friends where this could possibly come up whe getting dressed or changing or bathroom facilities.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Spacekitty » 19 May 2020, 05:06

John27 wrote:
azureflame wrote:It amazes me people can cut off parts of their kids without medical need and not get punished by law.


it amazes me, too. Although it's accepted as "standard" here in the US, and a lot of people just don't question it. It has been such a standard thing for generations. And, of course, there are lots of arguments for "why it should be done." Everything from the trivial ("you want your boy to look like the other boys in the middle school locker room showers!"--even though showers are no longer required many if not most schools) to supposed health benefits (which are seemingly oblivious to the fact that men in other parts of the world are intact, and get by just fine).


I could be wrong here... but I also sometimes think there is a monetary element at play here for the hospital / doctor. A wonderful extra charge to the medical bill. $$$
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby BottomnBama » 19 May 2020, 06:54

I am 42 and live in the United States. My mother made the decision not to have me circumcised and I am very thankful for that. My understanding is that you have more sensation when you are uncut, so that’s a win by itself. I have noticed something in terms of how women and men react to me, I am bisexual by the way.

Guys seem to really to like the fact I am uncut and don’t really make too big of a deal about it. Women either really like it or they start of not sure what to think about it. They have heard that old story about being uncut means you are unclean. So I have to explain that’s only true if you don’t clean it lol!

Once they get past the phobia, they almost always start getting turned on by it. I would get cut now for anything. This thread is really interesting though, especially hearing about how it is viewed in other countries.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby azureflame » 19 May 2020, 13:45

Spacekitty wrote:
John27 wrote:
azureflame wrote:It amazes me people can cut off parts of their kids without medical need and not get punished by law.


it amazes me, too. Although it's accepted as "standard" here in the US, and a lot of people just don't question it. It has been such a standard thing for generations. And, of course, there are lots of arguments for "why it should be done." Everything from the trivial ("you want your boy to look like the other boys in the middle school locker room showers!"--even though showers are no longer required many if not most schools) to supposed health benefits (which are seemingly oblivious to the fact that men in other parts of the world are intact, and get by just fine).


I could be wrong here... but I also sometimes think there is a monetary element at play here for the hospital / doctor. A wonderful extra charge to the medical bill. $$$


Yes, there is. I'm not lying here, last time I saw an urologist he insisted on me having a cirmcumsicion. While it may benefit me persobally to have one, he joked and he said "and well, that's where the money is" while laughing. He may have been joking but after I asked how much it's cost me if I went with it, I looked at him with hatred because yeah, unless they are medically necessary, they are super expensive.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby GearFetTwinkRomance » 20 May 2020, 18:12

Even if this done by 'needs' of a religious ceremony I still think they should wait until kids are of the age and sound mind to decide for their own!

Like over here, we've got recognition of peoples right to life and to physical integrity, as a fundamental right, yet still they made laws that partially ignore that if there's a non medical, religious reason.

Medical reasons I can understand if people decide by own means, or it was life threatening, they even can't pee or whatever.

When I was little, clergy church people did 'things' to me. Just that much on it : It can go wrong and I don't want anyone else to be put at such a risk, even when they're just babies and can't do anything to stop it. I don't understand how even just parents could allow their own kid to be hurt in such a way.
I often thought they're ignorant.
I mean, this is a functioning, protecting part of one's body, and as Eryx said, a lot of cases of Phimosis can be solved with stretching and minimal invasive correction.

Once they have destroyed one's parts by accident and bunglers do, there's no way to go back to natural.
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Ander1969 » 23 May 2020, 00:36

Guys, there is lots of recent medical proof to show that HPV transmission is much lower in circumsized men then "intact" men. Lots. In male partners of circumsized men, rates of colorectal, esophageal, prostate, throat and mouth cancers are much lower. For women partners of circumsized men, you can include cervical and uterin cancers too. Wouldn't you forgo a little of your sensitivity to protect your partner's health?
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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 23 May 2020, 01:38

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Re: The age old topic of circumcision

Unread postby Remington » 23 May 2020, 03:43

The idea of circumcision actually started with Abraham in the Bible. God ordered him to circumcise his son Isaac has a sign to the Jewish people. He was 13 at the time.

I was circumcised as a baby and I've always realized I thought that everybody was circumcised. I know I met one man slept with who was uncircumcised but after his penis extended it was all chapped and cracked and it was very unappetizing so to speak. I myself think that an uncircumcised dick is very sexy.
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