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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 12 April 2021, 17:45

Had an out-of-nowhere dream last night about a cute guy from my old job that I really liked and went on a couple of great dates with.

So now I'm feeling lonely and sad.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby rogonandi » 13 April 2021, 22:28

I messed up a couple of things at work today. It’s not really serious but it doesn’t make me look very good in front of the boss. :facepalm2:

Oh and I also accidentally destroyed one of my face masks.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 20 April 2021, 19:15

Sometimes the things that make me hate my life and existence aren't even big things like my dead-end shithole job or general depressive mindset.

Sometimes it's just simple things like "why the fuck can I never seem to actually own a pair of shoes that don't fucking cripple me?"

I know my fucking shoe size, I know I need wide fit shoes. That should be enough, surely, to be able to just once be able to buy a pair of shoes that don't rip the absolute shit out of my feet and leave me limping and almost crying in pain after walking in them for like half an hour, right?
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby René » 20 April 2021, 19:34

Severelius wrote:Sometimes the things that make me hate my life and existence aren't even big things like my dead-end shithole job or general depressive mindset.

Sometimes it's just simple things like "why the fuck can I never seem to actually own a pair of shoes that don't fucking cripple me?"

I know my fucking shoe size, I know I need wide fit shoes. That should be enough, surely, to be able to just once be able to buy a pair of shoes that don't rip the absolute shit out of my feet and leave me limping and almost crying in pain after walking in them for like half an hour, right?

Ask your GP for a referral to podiatry/biomechanics. They can advise you. You may benefit from custom insoles/shoes or something.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 20 April 2021, 19:44

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Severelius wrote:Sometimes the things that make me hate my life and existence aren't even big things like my dead-end shithole job or general depressive mindset.

Sometimes it's just simple things like "why the fuck can I never seem to actually own a pair of shoes that don't fucking cripple me?"

I know my fucking shoe size, I know I need wide fit shoes. That should be enough, surely, to be able to just once be able to buy a pair of shoes that don't rip the absolute shit out of my feet and leave me limping and almost crying in pain after walking in them for like half an hour, right?

Ask your GP for a referral to podiatry/biomechanics. They can advise you. You may benefit from custom insoles/shoes or something.

Been there, done that. Have custom carbon fibre insoles. They made the problem better (I used to be basically unable to walk for hours after taking my shoes off because the pain was so bad) but I'm still dealing with the problem of blisters in terrible places and severe pain in my heels because despite the aforementioned of knowing what damn size shoes I need, they never seem to fit properly regardless.

God only knows how much money I've collectively wasted on shoes that are basically torture devices that I can't actually wear.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Marmaduke » 20 April 2021, 19:55

Severelius wrote:
René wrote:
Severelius wrote:Sometimes the things that make me hate my life and existence aren't even big things like my dead-end shithole job or general depressive mindset.

Sometimes it's just simple things like "why the fuck can I never seem to actually own a pair of shoes that don't fucking cripple me?"

I know my fucking shoe size, I know I need wide fit shoes. That should be enough, surely, to be able to just once be able to buy a pair of shoes that don't rip the absolute shit out of my feet and leave me limping and almost crying in pain after walking in them for like half an hour, right?

Ask your GP for a referral to podiatry/biomechanics. They can advise you. You may benefit from custom insoles/shoes or something.

Been there, done that. Have custom carbon fibre insoles. They made the problem better (I used to be basically unable to walk for hours after taking my shoes off because the pain was so bad) but I'm still dealing with the problem of blisters in terrible places and severe pain in my heels because despite the aforementioned of knowing what damn size shoes I need, they never seem to fit properly regardless.

God only knows how much money I've collectively wasted on shoes that are basically torture devices that I can't actually wear.

Where do you buy your shoes?
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 20 April 2021, 20:13

For a long while recently I've been ordering them online like basically all my clothes whenever I need to buy any. Both because a lot of places have been either just closed or have a lot of restrictions on them for obvious reasons, and because I just fucking hate in-person clothes shopping with a passion that defies logic.

And I can already predict the advice is going to be to go to a proper shoe shop and actually pay for a properly expensive pair rather than half-arsing the bill. I've just never been all that keen on spending a high amount of money on shoes given there's like a 95% chance they're just still going to butcher my fucking feet anyway.

I'm just not someone who likes breaking the bank on clothes shopping. Plus I figure even cheap shoes should at the very least be expected to not shred people's feet. That's like bare minimum requirement, surely.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Marmaduke » 20 April 2021, 20:33

Oh no, I’m not going to tell you to go and have shoes made. Do you know how expensive that is? It’s like £3500 a pair. Even I’m not that mad. Well, no. That’s a lie. I am that mad. What I’m not is that rich, but I digress.

If your issue is with blisters, I’m guessing it’s predominantly around your heels and the joint of your big toe. I have the same issue in that I tend to prefer a wider fit, but I’ve learned that it’s less about the fit and more about the construction and the leather used. Cheap leather tends to be thicker, thicker is less flexible and requires much more wearing in, and the wearing in process is going to be more brutal. Cheap construction is usually a sign of cheap materials, so smell the inside of a shoe. If it smells synthetic or like glue, it’s not stitched together, it’s glued. Which is a pretty solid indicator that it’s gonna butcher you before it wears in.

I only really buy softer leather, more flexible shoes. They’re not as long-lasting, I usually end up wearing though a pair of shoes after about 3 months, but I don’t mind spending the extra money because I don’t spend 2-3 days tearing my feet to pieces and then 2-3 weeks of them not healing properly because I’m wearing the same shoes every day.

My advice is go to a shoe shop, not to spend a lot of money but to actually handle the product, try stuff on, find a brand that works for you and then stick to them when ordering online. For a smart, every day work shoe, I tend to stick with Ted Baker. They’re available on Amazon. They’re a pretty comfortable fit for a wider foot. They’re pretty reasonably priced.

Don’t go to George Cleverly. I don’t think you’ll enjoy them enough to really justify the expense of having shoes made bespoke, even though they’ll probably last you the rest of your life if you look after them.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby René » 20 April 2021, 20:39

Severelius wrote:
René wrote:
Severelius wrote:Sometimes the things that make me hate my life and existence aren't even big things like my dead-end shithole job or general depressive mindset.

Sometimes it's just simple things like "why the fuck can I never seem to actually own a pair of shoes that don't fucking cripple me?"

I know my fucking shoe size, I know I need wide fit shoes. That should be enough, surely, to be able to just once be able to buy a pair of shoes that don't rip the absolute shit out of my feet and leave me limping and almost crying in pain after walking in them for like half an hour, right?

Ask your GP for a referral to podiatry/biomechanics. They can advise you. You may benefit from custom insoles/shoes or something.

Been there, done that. Have custom carbon fibre insoles. They made the problem better (I used to be basically unable to walk for hours after taking my shoes off because the pain was so bad) but I'm still dealing with the problem of blisters in terrible places and severe pain in my heels because despite the aforementioned of knowing what damn size shoes I need, they never seem to fit properly regardless.

God only knows how much money I've collectively wasted on shoes that are basically torture devices that I can't actually wear.

Is there really nothing more they can do for you in terms of shoes that actually fit the shape of your feet? Perhaps you haven't properly impressed upon them the severity of the problem? It sounds sufficiently bad that the NHS (even the English one) should definitely find you a solution either for free or at low cost.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Marmaduke » 20 April 2021, 20:43

Ok, whilst I broke character and didn’t tell you to go and get shoes made, I’m going to hold to character and strongly discourage you from pressing the NHS for prescription shoes. They’re going to be so ugly. I’ll weep for you.

Let’s just try not ordering £30 shitters from AliBaba first. See if spending a little more money in order to not cry is perhaps a prudent investment.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 20 April 2021, 20:51

Marmaduke wrote:Oh no, I’m not going to tell you to go and have shoes made. Do you know how expensive that is? It’s like £3500 a pair. Even I’m not that mad. Well, no. That’s a lie. I am that mad. What I’m not is that rich, but I digress.

If your issue is with blisters, I’m guessing it’s predominantly around your heels and the joint of your big toe. I have the same issue in that I tend to prefer a wider fit, but I’ve learned that it’s less about the fit and more about the construction and the leather used. Cheap leather tends to be thicker, thicker is less flexible and requires much more wearing in, and the wearing in process is going to be more brutal. Cheap construction is usually a sign of cheap materials, so smell the inside of a shoe. If it smells synthetic or like glue, it’s not stitched together, it’s glued. Which is a pretty solid indicator that it’s gonna butcher you before it wears in.

I only really buy softer leather, more flexible shoes. They’re not as long-lasting, I usually end up wearing though a pair of shoes after about 3 months, but I don’t mind spending the extra money because I don’t spend 2-3 days tearing my feet to pieces and then 2-3 weeks of them not healing properly because I’m wearing the same shoes every day.

My advice is go to a shoe shop, not to spend a lot of money but to actually handle the product, try stuff on, find a brand that works for you and then stick to them when ordering online. For a smart, every day work shoe, I tend to stick with Ted Baker. They’re available on Amazon. They’re a pretty comfortable fit for a wider foot. They’re pretty reasonably priced.

Don’t go to George Cleverly. I don’t think you’ll enjoy them enough to really justify the expense of having shoes made bespoke, even though they’ll probably last you the rest of your life if you look after them.

My blisters only ever turn up on the ball of my foot under the big toe, slightly off to the outside. I never get any on my heels. My heel issue is that it constantly feels like the sole of my heel is bruised when it isn't so basically any pressure on it just fucking aches like hell. Which is kind of impossible to avoid when walking as I have yet to master the pointe technique. Don't quite know how I'm going to solve that one since padded inserts never seem to do shit whenever I've tried them.

I will admit most of my shoes I buy are inevitably fake as shit leather with almost no give. Just because it's cheaper. Plus with my need for wide fit, from my usual online clothing retailer the options are somewhat limited, especially considering I primarily only have this much of an issue when buying shoes for work and thus my options are limited even further by fucking dress codes.

Also even the idea of spending £3500 on a pair of shoes just gave me some kind of aneurysm.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Marmaduke » 20 April 2021, 21:08

Sounds like something to speak to your GP about, maybe get an X-Ray. Or, if we don’t exclude the possibility that you’re an idiot who’s just been wearing the wrong size shoes and wondering why his feet hurt, try shoes a half/full size bigger.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Marmaduke » 20 April 2021, 21:12

Also, £3500~ is only really the first pair. Once you pick a maker, a lot of that initial cost relates to the labour involved in making a pair of lasts, which are just wooden models of your feet around which the shoes are made. You only need to have that done the once usually, so after that the costs tumbles down to a more reasonable £1500~.

You know, just in case you felt like treating yourself. It’s certainly a reliable method of determining if it’s really fit that’s the issue.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 20 April 2021, 21:15

Marmaduke wrote:Sounds like something to speak to your GP about, maybe get an X-Ray. Or, if we don’t exclude the possibility that you’re an idiot who’s just been wearing the wrong size shoes and wondering why his feet hurt, try shoes a half/full size bigger.

I can't possibly deny that I'm an idiot in myriad different ways. But I'm 29. My shoe size hasn't changed in like a decade.

Also, £3500~ is only really the first pair. Once you pick a maker, a lot of that initial cost relates to the labour involved in making a pair of lasts, which are just wooden models of your feet around which the shoes are made. You only need to have that done the once usually, so after that the costs tumbles down to a more reasonable £1500~.

You know, just in case you felt like treating yourself. It’s certainly a reliable method of determining if it’s really fit that’s the issue.

I've never spent £1500 on any one single thing ever and somehow doubt I ever will. Especially not shoes of all things.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Marmaduke » 20 April 2021, 21:20

Have you tried a larger size, just to confirm or deny the accuracy of the measurement you took a decade ago? Do they do half-sizes on your plastic shoe wholesalers website?
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 20 April 2021, 21:25

Marmaduke wrote:Have you tried a larger size, just to confirm or deny the accuracy of the measurement you took a decade ago? Do they do half-sizes on your plastic shoe wholesalers website?

Not in wide fit. I'd need to go from 11 wide to 12 wide.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Marmaduke » 20 April 2021, 21:31

Maybe try a regular size 12 shoe, not from this specialist wide shoes website. Certainly, you don’t seem to have a lot of good things to say about the benefits you’ve seen from using their products. From the outside looking in, it does appear like the approach of “whatever the cheapest plain black shoe available on this one website” is a less than adequate system of acquiring new shoes in your circumstances.

Don’t worry, you need never admit that you’ve been wearing the wrong size shoes for 10 years.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Severelius » 20 April 2021, 21:59

Marmaduke wrote:Maybe try a regular size 12 shoe, not from this specialist wide shoes website. Certainly, you don’t seem to have a lot of good things to say about the benefits you’ve seen from using their products. From the outside looking in, it does appear like the approach of “whatever the cheapest plain black shoe available on this one website” is a less than adequate system of acquiring new shoes in your circumstances.

Don’t worry, you need never admit that you’ve been wearing the wrong size shoes for 10 years.

Everything else I've got from them has been fine. It's just the shoes. And I don't just go for the cheapest plain black shoe. But I like how chelsea boots look so... yeah. I am a creature of habit.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby OutsideIn » 20 April 2021, 22:21

The best shoe advice I ever heard was from a running store. (You don't have to be a runner. It's not like they require proof.) They had me run a short distance in front of them, which admittedly was weird. They could see my stride and the way that I planted my feet as I ran. They recommended a brand for me that would work best. They also saw that my feet are wider at the front, but more narrow at the ankle. Typical wide shoes are too loose in back and give me blisters, but regular sizes crimp my feet in front. I found that Brooks running shoes fit me best, and I buy their walking shoes a well. I avoid dress shoes as much as possible because most of them don't fit me no matter how much I spend.

The running store also showed me a trick to tying the laces around the top that would make them slip less. I can't describe it, but I might be able to find a video.

You may also want to change the type of socks you wear. Even after finding great running shoes, I would get a lot of blisters. I found Darn Tough merino wool socks after some research. It seemed counter-intuitive to wear wool socks for running, but they worked perfectly. They wick away moisture, and I never get blisters anymore.

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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby McTaggartfan » 20 April 2021, 22:45

I don't know how to talk to many of my straight, guy friends.
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