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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby Bluefish » 29 March 2022, 18:50

Thank you :)

I am pissed. Also just sad but that's okay.

With the job thing it was a specific instance - they accepted me and offered me the job but didn't communicate well or give me a contract and they stopped replying to me after the offer. So that was annoying :P

But it's true most employers don't have the time to respond
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby PopTart » 29 March 2022, 19:01

Oh that is annoying, giving you the job and then not communicating.

That is pretty low.

I want to ask further questions, but will wait.

Congratulations for getting so far though. Their loss. They were probably crappy employers anyway, with such blatant bad communication and back tracking. You probably dodged a bullet.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby pozzie » 29 March 2022, 21:55

PopTart wrote:I think young people in particular are very sensitive to this kind of thing too as they have never known any different way of being. Many young people struggle with rejection in any form and I do think that social media, and modern technology and the changes it has wrought on society are to blame.

And fuck me I sound like a luddite. I'm not. But as time goes by, I'm starting to question how truly benign some of the technologies we have adopted, really are and if perhaps, some of them are more of a problem than we care to admit. (Because they are convenient)


Yeah, I grew up in a house with a rotary dial phone and no answering machine AND I've actually sent a telegram.

On some level, I think the human response is a normal part of being a social creature. I'm not meaning to be judgmental about ghosting, just trying to understand why it's a become a 'thing'.

One thing I'd interject -- isn't it still considered a horrible faux pas to break up via text, or even worse, in a tweet? Maybe the expectation is a bit unrealistic -- to expect that every interviewer will send a "sorry" letter or that person you met for drinks will say they've lost interest. Doing any of that in public will make Miss Manners cry!

But yes, what have we created with constant, instant communication?

I have a close friend who is very big on all this stuff (FB, Twitter, texting) and he's even a bit older than I am but he never responds when I message him unless he needs more information. I try to respond to most direct messages when I get them, even if only to say, "Sounds good. Thanks." or to acknowledge that I got the message. But I get a strong sense that such responses are no longer the norm. So that's part of the reason I'm a bit confused by ghosting.

Elon Musk (sssssss) was in headlines over the weekend saying he's contemplating starting a new social media platform with an emphasis on free speech -- you know the sort of 'say anything' type place that a number of people on the right have already started. Yeah, I'm sure that will help.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby pozzie » 29 March 2022, 21:59

Bluefish wrote:Thank you :)

I am pissed. Also just sad but that's okay.

With the job thing it was a specific instance - they accepted me and offered me the job but didn't communicate well or give me a contract and they stopped replying to me after the offer. So that was annoying :P

But it's true most employers don't have the time to respond


Sorry, the conversation moved along while I was working on my last post. That totally sucks Bluefish and I'm sure Miss Manners would be livid. That I totally get.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby PopTart » 29 March 2022, 23:23

pozzie wrote:Elon Musk (sssssss) was in headlines over the weekend saying he's contemplating starting a new social media platform with an emphasis on free speech -- you know the sort of 'say anything' type place that a number of people on the right have already started. Yeah, I'm sure that will help.
:lol: can it be any worse than twitter? A recent study of US citizens, found that less than 20% of Americans had ever tweeted. Yet trending Twitter opinions, can lose people their jobs affect political policy and shape the narrative of news media. How is that healthy? Yet I don't hear anyone denouncing that platform (probably because its left leaning)

I'm starting to feel that governments.have an ever vanishing window of opportunity to limit the reach and risks represented by big tech and social media, after which, it won't be possible or worth trying. We'll be living in a technofuedalism of our own making already.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby rogonandi » 31 March 2022, 05:28

I just feel generally miserable tonight. I don’t want to do anything but lay here on the couch and eat comfort food.

On the plus side, I am only in a small amount of physical pain. It was a lot worse a couple of hours ago.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby McTaggartfan » 31 March 2022, 05:31

rogonandi wrote:I just feel generally miserable tonight. I don’t want to do anything but lay here on the couch and eat comfort food.

On the plus side, I am only in a small amount of physical pain. It was a lot worse a couple of hours ago.


I’m sorry to hear you’re feeling miserable. Is there anything I, or any others on the forum could do to help or otherwise cheer you up? That is, unless it’s that peculiar melancholy which somehow one can enjoy experiencing, even while it threatens to crush oneself in the throes of despair.

Also, what’s with the physical pain? Do you suffer from chronic pain of some sort?
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby rogonandi » 31 March 2022, 05:44

McTaggartfan wrote:
rogonandi wrote:I just feel generally miserable tonight. I don’t want to do anything but lay here on the couch and eat comfort food.

On the plus side, I am only in a small amount of physical pain. It was a lot worse a couple of hours ago.


I’m sorry to hear you’re feeling miserable? Is there anything I, or any others on the forum could do to help or otherwise cheer you up? That is, unless it’s that peculiar melancholy which somehow one can enjoy experiencing, even while it threatens to crush oneself in the throes of despair.

Also, what’s with the physical pain? Do you suffer from chronic pain of some sort?

The emotional misery may be due to being in physical pain, honestly. My leg and ankle were a bad enough that the pain was actually distracting me while watching TV. Pain puts me in a bad mood, go figure.

It has become chronic. I only have to walk a kilometre or so for it to flare up now. I’ll be seeing the doctor about it.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby McTaggartfan » 31 March 2022, 05:47

rogonandi wrote:
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rogonandi wrote:I just feel generally miserable tonight. I don’t want to do anything but lay here on the couch and eat comfort food.

On the plus side, I am only in a small amount of physical pain. It was a lot worse a couple of hours ago.


I’m sorry to hear you’re feeling miserable? Is there anything I, or any others on the forum could do to help or otherwise cheer you up? That is, unless it’s that peculiar melancholy which somehow one can enjoy experiencing, even while it threatens to crush oneself in the throes of despair.

Also, what’s with the physical pain? Do you suffer from chronic pain of some sort?

The emotional misery may be due to being in physical pain, honestly. My leg and ankle were a bad enough that the pain was actually distracting me while watching TV. Pain puts me in a bad mood, go figure.

It has become chronic. I only have to walk a kilometre or so for it to flare up now. I’ll be seeing the doctor about it.


Ah, well, hopefully the doctor will be able to do something about it! In the meantime, perhaps try taking a pain-relief medication (e.g. ibuprofen) and drinking some water or tea? I do hope it gets better!

And yes, the pain must be pretty bad if it was distracting from watching the television. I've had pain like that, though most often whenever I've had a migraine. I also had a pain in my side once that was so bad I couldn't keep the same position (lying down, standing, sitting, etc.) for more than 25-45 seconds. It went away after a couple days, so I didn't bother going to the doctor.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby rogonandi » 31 March 2022, 06:11

Ah, well, hopefully the doctor will be able to do something about it! In the meantime, perhaps try taking a pain-relief medication (e.g. ibuprofen) and drinking some water or tea? I do hope it gets better!


I did and it is better now. I was given a regimen from the doctor the last time I went for it for pain meds. It worked, but came back as soon as I stopped. I can’t take pain medication every day; it will end up damaging the kidneys after about 6 months. :pfft:
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby McTaggartfan » 31 March 2022, 06:13

rogonandi wrote:
Ah, well, hopefully the doctor will be able to do something about it! In the meantime, perhaps try taking a pain-relief medication (e.g. ibuprofen) and drinking some water or tea? I do hope it gets better!


I did and it is better now. I was given a regimen from the doctor the last time I went for it for pain meds. It worked, but came back as soon as I stopped. I can’t take pain medication every day; it will end up damaging the kidneys after about 6 months. :pfft:


Huh, I didn't know pain meds would do that to a person. Maybe a different pain med wouldn't have that effect? :shrug:

And I'm glad to hear you're feeling better! :keke:
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby rogonandi » 31 March 2022, 06:22

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rogonandi wrote:
Ah, well, hopefully the doctor will be able to do something about it! In the meantime, perhaps try taking a pain-relief medication (e.g. ibuprofen) and drinking some water or tea? I do hope it gets better!


I did and it is better now. I was given a regimen from the doctor the last time I went for it for pain meds. It worked, but came back as soon as I stopped. I can’t take pain medication every day; it will end up damaging the kidneys after about 6 months. :pfft:


Huh, I didn't know pain meds would do that to a person. Maybe a different pain med wouldn't have that effect? :shrug:

And I'm glad to hear you're feeling better! :keke:

Yeah, prolonged use of over the counter pain medication was will eventually become toxic for the body.

What I want to know is why these pains are happening. I do know that side of the body is compromised because of an accident and I have metal hardware in my thigh. If there are some complications with these areas I wanna know.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby McTaggartfan » 31 March 2022, 06:30

rogonandi wrote:
McTaggartfan wrote:
rogonandi wrote:
Ah, well, hopefully the doctor will be able to do something about it! In the meantime, perhaps try taking a pain-relief medication (e.g. ibuprofen) and drinking some water or tea? I do hope it gets better!


I did and it is better now. I was given a regimen from the doctor the last time I went for it for pain meds. It worked, but came back as soon as I stopped. I can’t take pain medication every day; it will end up damaging the kidneys after about 6 months. :pfft:


Huh, I didn't know pain meds would do that to a person. Maybe a different pain med wouldn't have that effect? :shrug:

And I'm glad to hear you're feeling better! :keke:

Yeah, prolonged use of over the counter pain medication was will eventually become toxic for the body.

What I want to know is why these pains are happening. I do know that side of the body is compromised because of an accident and I have metal hardware in my thigh. If there are some complications with these areas I wanna know.


A reasonable desire.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby rogonandi » 2 April 2022, 05:28

I just got bitten/stung twice essentially in my taint by an ant that somehow crawled up there. :madred:
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby PopTart » 2 April 2022, 08:05

rogonandi wrote:I just got bitten/stung twice essentially in my taint by an ant that somehow crawled up there. :madred:
Maybe you should spend less time with your undies round your ankles, letting critters crawl inside, you slut. :P :lol:

But in all seriousness, that is one adventurous ant! One small bite for man, one wayward journey for ant kind.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby rogonandi » 2 April 2022, 09:22

PopTart wrote:
rogonandi wrote:I just got bitten/stung twice essentially in my taint by an ant that somehow crawled up there. :madred:
Maybe you should spend less time with your undies round your ankles, letting critters crawl inside, you slut. :P :lol:

But in all seriousness, that is one adventurous ant! One small bite for man, one wayward journey for ant kind.


Those species don’t normally do that either. It’s usually a last resort for them.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby PopTart » 2 April 2022, 09:35

rogonandi wrote:
PopTart wrote:
rogonandi wrote:I just got bitten/stung twice essentially in my taint by an ant that somehow crawled up there. :madred:
Maybe you should spend less time with your undies round your ankles, letting critters crawl inside, you slut. :P :lol:

But in all seriousness, that is one adventurous ant! One small bite for man, one wayward journey for ant kind.


Those species don’t normally do that either. It’s usually a last resort for them.
What, Sluts crawling into your pants? I beg to differ sir! I've heard it's their raison d'être. Your pants must be especially inviting :D

Get some cream to spread on the bites though. Or your gonna be scratching your crotch like crazy over the next few days. You don't want to seem a pervert when your on the bus for work and absent mindedly scratching that itch. :wide-eyed:
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby pozzie » 2 April 2022, 19:34

PopTart wrote:
pozzie wrote:Elon Musk (sssssss) was in headlines over the weekend saying he's contemplating starting a new social media platform with an emphasis on free speech -- you know the sort of 'say anything' type place that a number of people on the right have already started. Yeah, I'm sure that will help.
:lol: can it be any worse than twitter? A recent study of US citizens, found that less than 20% of Americans had ever tweeted. Yet trending Twitter opinions, can lose people their jobs affect political policy and shape the narrative of news media. How is that healthy? Yet I don't hear anyone denouncing that platform (probably because its left leaning)

I'm starting to feel that governments.have an ever vanishing window of opportunity to limit the reach and risks represented by big tech and social media, after which, it won't be possible or worth trying. We'll be living in a technofuedalism of our own making already.


I cast my 👎🏻 against Twitter when I deleted my account some years back. I'm also not very tolerant of the right's constant whine that media/big tech are 'left-leaning'. First off, the right have been the great champions of de-regulating corporations, so this is a mess of THEIR creation. Second, if corporations are supposed to be responsive to their customers, then is it any surprise they print what their customers want to read/hear? Again, this is a problem of the right's making.

And my chuckle wasn't so much about Musk starting up a new platform -- that's entirely his right. Let him carry and protect to communications of plotters against state and federal governments and provide a safe home to calls for his own murder when he pisses off some nut job.

Don't be fooled. It isn't that they are complaining because they are being censored, they are upset that they don't control (and therefore can't censor) voices they don't agree with. It's all smoke and bs.

And when did you last hear that Murdoch or Breitbart wasn't doing enough to present more viewpoints that differ from that held by their management? Hmmmm. Pot. Kettle. Black much?
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby PopTart » 2 April 2022, 21:59

pozzie wrote:
PopTart wrote:
pozzie wrote:Elon Musk (sssssss) was in headlines over the weekend saying he's contemplating starting a new social media platform with an emphasis on free speech -- you know the sort of 'say anything' type place that a number of people on the right have already started. Yeah, I'm sure that will help.
:lol: can it be any worse than twitter? A recent study of US citizens, found that less than 20% of Americans had ever tweeted. Yet trending Twitter opinions, can lose people their jobs affect political policy and shape the narrative of news media. How is that healthy? Yet I don't hear anyone denouncing that platform (probably because its left leaning)

I'm starting to feel that governments.have an ever vanishing window of opportunity to limit the reach and risks represented by big tech and social media, after which, it won't be possible or worth trying. We'll be living in a technofuedalism of our own making already.


I cast my 👎🏻 against Twitter when I deleted my account some years back. I'm also not very tolerant of the right's constant whine that media/big tech are 'left-leaning'. First off, the right have been the great champions of de-regulating corporations, so this is a mess of THEIR creation. Second, if corporations are supposed to be responsive to their customers, then is it any surprise they print what their customers want to read/hear? Again, this is a problem of the right's making.

And my chuckle wasn't so much about Musk starting up a new platform -- that's entirely his right. Let him carry and protect to communications of plotters against state and federal governments and provide a safe home to calls for his own murder when he pisses off some nut job.

Don't be fooled. It isn't that they are complaining because they are being censored, they are upset that they don't control (and therefore can't censor) voices they don't agree with. It's all smoke and bs.

And when did you last hear that Murdoch or Breitbart wasn't doing enough to present more viewpoints that differ from that held by their management? Hmmmm. Pot. Kettle. Black much?
Got a problem poz? You seem to have taken an off the cuff response quite personally.

Infact, you get abit uppity whenever I dare criticise the left in any way.
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Re: What put a frown on your face today?

Unread postby pozzie » 2 April 2022, 23:45

Nah, wasn't really personal - I just hate the right and most of their moaning. They were much happier when they were in control of the media and they hate that the world's moved on. Where were they crying about censorship when the only coverage of gay rights or AIDS in the media was leather & drag at Pride or pushing the narrative that gay men should be quarantined? How much coverage did they give to anti-invasion messages related to Grenada, Panama, and Iraq? They were only too happy to censor PBS, even for shows bought from ITV and the BBC.

Is it acceptable free speech for an 'influencer' to tell people to inject bleach to fight off Covid or take drugs that have no indication that they are anti-viral? Should the Sun be required to run stories about the Murdoch's tax payments or give equal space to those who were against Brexit?

Twitter is a private enterprise.

The right has fought to have minimal regulation of private enterprise. Furthermore, the right has regularly championed the marketplace as the best arbiter of right and wrong. Therefore, if one doesn't like the way Twitter runs its business, then one should NOT turn to a big government solution, but should start a competitor. Isn't this the fundamental message proposed by Conservatives since before Reagan-Thatcher were able to gain control of the levers of government? But no, boo hoo hoo, poor conservatives don't get to say what they want on a private enterprise's messaging system so THEY MUST BE REGULATED.

I have no problem with criticism of the left unless people use rightwing dog whistles when they do it. There's a difference between saying I'm against Medicare-for-All and then stating why AND I'm against Medicare-for-All because it's just socialized medicine. Again, this is the constant refrain on the right whenever we try to do anything to expand access to healthcare. You always get: do you want the government telling you which doctor you can see? It's always "the government wants to control you" and yet they turn a blind eye to someone's employer's insurance company's employee doing the same exact thing.

In other words, again, it's bad for government to tell people what to do but perfectly okay when a corporation does the exact same thing.

See, if you don't like the decision of your employer's insurance company you can just go find a different employer right? Or you can just pay the cost of your open heart surgery out of pocket, right? That's freedom!

Musk is a tool and even worse, a media whore like the Kardashians.
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