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What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby Twinklelittle » 29 May 2020, 17:06

Hello my name is John Riley, I’m 23 years old, I have a cancer, and I have a question for you what will you do if you have a cancer?
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Unread postby René » 29 May 2020, 17:14

Aww, oh no! What kind is it?

I would probably buy a lot of experimental compounds with preliminary evidence for treating the specific kind of cancer in question, take all of it at once and hope for the best while trying to make the most of what remains of my life.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby Milne » 29 May 2020, 17:21

René wrote:Aww, oh no! What kind is it?

I would probably buy a lot of experimental compounds with preliminary evidence for treating the specific kind of cancer in question, take all of it at once and hope for the best while trying to make the most of what remains of my life.



Agreeable!
It depends on what kind it is?

E.g prostate cancer: Some types of prostate cancer grow slowly. In some of these cases, monitoring is recommended. Other types are aggressive and require radiation, surgery, hormone therapy, chemotherapy or other treatments.

We can talk via email so I can guide you through.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby harel » 29 May 2020, 17:33

Men of this age group are most likely to suffer from testicular cancer. If so, survival rates are skyhigh for these cancer patients.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby Twinklelittle » 29 May 2020, 17:42

René wrote:Aww, oh no! What kind is it?

I would probably buy a lot of experimental compounds with preliminary evidence for treating the specific kind of cancer in question, take all of it at once and hope for the best while trying to make the most of what remains of my life.


Ohhh, if I need a lot of money for this, what I can do?
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Unread postby Twinklelittle » 29 May 2020, 17:43

Milne wrote:
René wrote:Aww, oh no! What kind is it?

I would probably buy a lot of experimental compounds with preliminary evidence for treating the specific kind of cancer in question, take all of it at once and hope for the best while trying to make the most of what remains of my life.



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It depends on what kind it is?

E.g prostate cancer: Some types of prostate cancer grow slowly. In some of these cases, monitoring is recommended. Other types are aggressive and require radiation, surgery, hormone therapy, chemotherapy or other treatments.

We can talk via email so I can guide you through.


My mail is tyformylife@gmail.com
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby René » 29 May 2020, 17:48

Twinklelittle wrote:
René wrote:Aww, oh no! What kind is it?

I would probably buy a lot of experimental compounds with preliminary evidence for treating the specific kind of cancer in question, take all of it at once and hope for the best while trying to make the most of what remains of my life.

Ohhh, if I need a lot of money for this, what I can do?

If money was an issue, I would probably just buy the cheapest things with the best scientific evidence to use alongside mainstream medical treatment.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby Eryx » 29 May 2020, 17:58

Depends on the cancer and the stage. Pancreas stage IV? I'd get all my money and do the most that I can.

Stage 1 prostate? I'd just get the appropriate treatment and hope for the best.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby harel » 29 October 2020, 21:17

Just to remind you, movember is coming: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movember

If you are <45 years old, check your testicles for cancer and read about primary prevention. If you are >45 years old, screen yourself for prostate cancer and colorectal cancer and read about primary prevention. Now or when SARS-CoV-2 ends.

I somewhat regret that health and care (or "beauty" etc.) is not a separate section here, despite men are living shorter (especially non-heterosexual), but perhaps health should be discussed elsewhere with professionals.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 29 October 2020, 21:32

Prostate cancer would freak me out the most. My dad had it. I would probably try to nut inside as many holes as possible before I had to go under the knife to remove it. :(
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby harel » 29 October 2020, 21:49

Me too. However, if you detect cancer at a benign stage, it will be possible for you to better manage this condition and focus stronger on prevention (starting with https://www.europeancancerleagues.org/c ... st-cancer/). Actually, urology is about management of prostatic hyperplasia.

You are right that there are many controversies regarding prostate cancer. We need more urologists and andrologists. Prostate cancer is still underrepresented in cancer research.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby Brenden » 29 October 2020, 23:07

Pancreatic cancer is the scariest cancer. 10-year survival is close to 0% and hasn't budged in the last 40 years, unlike almost all other cancers which have made leaps and bounds in 10-year survivability.

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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby harel » 30 October 2020, 08:06

A disease, which I can be easily avoided, is not scary to me. Note, only 2% of cancers are pancreatic cancers and half of them are attributable solely to tobacco smoking.

What is scary to me is the disease, which is (A) very common, (B), you do not know, how to avoid it (i.a. risk factors are not known), (C) there are many controversies about treatment.

(A) The circles on the left in the figure in the post above present the registered incidence only. Autopsy studies have shown that 30% of men aged 50+ have prostate cancer (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2483315/). Most of prostate cancer are not detected during the lifetime. It is contrary to breast cancer, since there is a well-organised cancer screening in all developed countries and most breast cancer are registered. So, app. 1/3 of us are going to live 10+ years with prostate cancer, trying to treat it or not at all.

(B) There are no well-established risk factors for prostate cancer. The best summary of knowledge on prostate cancer are EAU Guidelines. It summarises the section on risk factors with the words: "no definitive recommendation can be provided for specific preventive or dietary measures to reduce the risk of developing prostate cancer" (page 192 here: https://uroweb.org/wp-content/uploads/G ... lete-1.pdf). I have read many great studies, which suggest that lycopene (found in tomatoes) is linked to lower prostate cancer risks, but the current evidence is still insufficient, according to EAU! And it is so with many other hypothetical risk factors for prostate cancer!

(C) There is much unclearness regarding the treatment. EAU Guidelines specify that "an individualised risk-adapted strategy for early detection might be offered to a well-informed man" and it suggests that a doctor should "offer individualised treatment based on life expectancy, symptoms and risk factors". So, everything should be individualised. The problem is that not everybody of us lives in London or Berlin to get access to an urologist or an oncologist, who is an expert.

Postscriptum. Testicular cancer is not very common and has skyhigh survival rates, but the only treatment (in 99% cases) is to cut your testicle(s). Unwilling to see the images, I was even afraid to check in Google, how this procedure is called in English. So, it is worth to participate in movember!
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby René » 30 October 2020, 08:48

^ Survival is after diagnosis, though, right? If someone has a case of prostate cancer that is not very aggressive and doesn't produce any symptoms leading to medical investigation and diagnosis, he doesn't end up in the population for which the survival rate is calculated. So I would guess the calculated x-year survival rate would be much better if there was universal screening.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby GearFetTwinkRomance » 30 October 2020, 09:46

I guess I would have me some great time with all the guys and later go out sailing just before the storm goes insane. Or, as my squad mate did back then, swallow the gun muzzle, since they could not help him take the pain, morphines did not work.

This would be end stage talking. At first I would try any and every scientific, medical, traditional or alternative method I can find out about, preferredly them that had a thorough science proof base along, and in combination of these, to get rid of cancer. I would, again, undergo surgery, as I did the time I had that thing inside my face, upper jaw, below the eye. They got rid if that one, nothing came back in the control tests so far.

A lot of people along my way have lost the fight on their specific type and some were pretty young ones, too. I guess all we can do is fighting it, and use all available science to better understand the process that causes cells to freak out and go maligne.

I wish luck to you and the best guidance to help you can get! No matter what comes, gotta keep fighting! :jihad:
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby Jasper1 » 31 October 2020, 10:55

I truly hope you will be ok.

Very recently I lost two loved ones, a friend and a family member to bowel cancer, both within 9 months of diagnosis. Strangely both passed from infections as a direct result of the treatment they were receiving to prolong their lives.

I literally can’t get my head around the mental anguish they must have been going through during treatment and when treatment stopped.

Life can be very short so live it the best way you can.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby edj » 1 November 2020, 00:04

In addition to seeking medical advice homeopathic care, I would seek the help of a qualified therapist to cope with the anxiety, and to sort out my priorities.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby acpro » 1 November 2020, 04:58

poolerboy0077 wrote:Prostate cancer would freak me out the most. My dad had it. I would probably try to nut inside as many holes as possible before I had to go under the knife to remove it. :(


Prostate is not always so bad. Some are super slow and the men never even get treatment (according to my mom who is not a doctor lol).

But Dr Drew had is entire prostate removed and he said he's fine aside from having less confidence in getting erections. Nothing a little ED drugs can't cure.
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Re: What will you do if you have cancer?

Unread postby Eryx » 1 November 2020, 13:39

My grandpa died of prostate cancer because he refused to get anything up his butt. Served him well. I'm sure there are many other cases like this.
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Unread postby harel » 1 November 2020, 13:50

acpro wrote:Prostate is not always so bad. Some are super slow and the men never even get treatment (according to my mom who is not a doctor lol).
René wrote:I would guess the calculated x-year survival rate would be much better if there was universal screening.

I agree with both of you. However, in my opinion, the tragic thing is that there is no prostate cancer screening. This means that app. random group of prostate cancers is detected at an initial stage. I guess it would be much better for male health, if a doctor (urologist) decided, whether a patient needs treatment, management, or monitoring. I guess, the no-screening solution is just sweeping under the rug and is pretty cheap.

Note, it is contrary to the situation with breast cancer, where universal screening is offered to all women in a specific age group.

By the way, boys, remember and participate in Movember! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movember
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