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Unread postby Gay-paul » 12 November 2018, 09:50

Why the most vocal opponent's homosexuality are often homosexual themselves? :-)?

In my country of Poland, people often associate homosexuals as weirdoes who often go in strange kitschy gaudy and overly colorful costumes :-)

Although there are rumors that the leader of the largest right-wing party in our country is a party that is considered Christian Democratic, which is now our ruling party, there are rumors that its founder, himself is gay, because he is over 60 and he has no wife, only cat, unlike her much-loved twin brother, who was our president, but he died an air accident. The leader of this party had never personally attacked gays as such, but a journalist of one leftist newspaper wrote a lampoon that he has a male cat and probably molested this cat sexually, and have already drawn more serious and more reliable information about the fact that in the 1990s he had a secret boyfriend of the special services officer who was married but was a bisexual, and provided him with information about corruption scandals, this officer gained a nickname "deep throat" as a reference to a similar scandal that took place in United States, and quite specific relationship that connected him with this politician.
This politician really hated corruption in our country and that is why the leftist government in the 1990s collapsed.
Although after this lampoon about this politician, he found quite exotic allies in the form of gay organizations in our country, who defended him that such articles harm homosexual people because homosexuality is presented as something bad that should be ashamed, and yet no one chooses that he is born gay, lesbian or bisexuality
There is one more tragic life story, in one country town in our country, there was a boy who played at a local football club (of course, our European football) he was very liked, but he liked to bully people he considered gay in particular to one boy who was mathematically gifted and even helped him learn mathematics, this rural football star liked to bully the weak.
Especially as I wrote earlier about people whom he considered to be fag!.
Well, someone decided to teach him a lesson, someone left a gay porn movie on a school computer in a school IT lab, and this boy was lured that during the break between lessons when he thought he was not in the room started watching this porn, but was recorded and the movie was placed on the internet, that the school homophobe and call gay people as fag is fag himself :-)
Unfortunately, the situation ended tragically this homophobic boy, who turned out to be a homosexual, from a school sports star, quickly became a star of the Polish Internet. Unfortunately, he could not stand it mentally and tried to commit suicide at home, fortunately unsuccessful, because the paramedics arrived on time and made him gastric lavage, he went to the toxicology and then to the psychiatric hospital on observation.:-(
In the suicide letter, he apologized to the boy for abusing him if he is gay, if he really is, but he has always liked him both psychologically and physically and he secretly dreamed that he would be his boyfriend, but he was also afraid that if he is turns out that he is gay, he would hurt his parents that they would be ashamed of their neighbours that they have a son who is gay :-(
It turned out that the boy got fantastic support from his teammates from the football team, conservative parents who loved him anyway , that they want him to recover quickly and continue to lead them, despite the fact that we Poles do not usually tolerate LGBT people
That kid get dating with his previous victim :-)

On of leader of LGBTQ organization in my country said that “outing” as gay people should not be tolerated even if someone is jerk and homophobic because those people often battling with their own homoerotic feeling, and should be rather be helped to cope with this feeling



I posted this also here, i know that you noi like Yahoo Answers i hope i did not get ban for it, i plan to share it on Quora too :-)

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Unread postby rogonandi » 13 November 2018, 05:55

The answer to that question is pretty simple: If it isn’t taboo, it isn’t fun.
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Unread postby Eryx » 13 November 2018, 13:18

I don't think all homophobes are closeted gay guys, but there sure must be a bunch of them who fall under that category. It's true that some people cope with something they don't like about themselves by actively rejecting it. There are a bunch of stories of notorious racists who molested black women and men, which goes to show they were actually attracted to certain ethnicities and wouldn't accept it.

I have a theory that a lot of homophobes and anti-LGBT activists are actually bisexual. One of the most used arguments against homosexuality is that we choose to live in this "lifestyle", and that there are ways to celibacy and to converting back to heterosexuality, that it's taught or indoctrinated or a fruit of sexual assault etc.

Well, if you're born bisexual and you've always been attracted to both genders, you might conclude that everyone functions the same, that other people are choosing to be heterosexuals and that it is the right thing. That you can be whatever, but that you have to have the willpower to tread through the right path. You would never know what it's like to only like men or women, and that opens the opportunity to not believe that gay people don't choose their attraction, since you can.

Just a theory though.
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Unread postby PopTart » 13 November 2018, 17:14

Eryx wrote:I don't think all homophobes are closeted gay guys, but there sure must be a bunch of them who fall under that category. It's true that some people cope with something they don't like about themselves by actively rejecting it. There are a bunch of stories of notorious racists who molested black women and men, which goes to show they were actually attracted to certain ethnicities and wouldn't accept it.

I have a theory that a lot of homophobes and anti-LGBT activists are actually bisexual. One of the most used arguments against homosexuality is that we choose to live in this "lifestyle", and that there are ways to celibacy and to converting back to heterosexuality, that it's taught or indoctrinated or a fruit of sexual assault etc.

Well, if you're born bisexual and you've always been attracted to both genders, you might conclude that everyone functions the same, that other people are choosing to be heterosexuals and that it is the right thing. That you can be whatever, but that you have to have the willpower to tread through the right path. You would never know what it's like to only like men or women, and that opens the opportunity to not believe that gay people don't choose their attraction, since you can.

Just a theory though.

You know I kinda love this idea!

I often think that the vast majority of people fall someplace in the middle of the spectrum (not dead center, possibly not far off one side of the extreme or the other, but not 100% gay or straight) Those of us who are pretty much in the 99-100% spectrum, gay or straight, being the true minority, but it would lend credence to the idea that those people who perhaps identify their same sex attractions as being wholly exclusive, when infact it's not, would more readily be able to forswear only an aspect of their sexual identities as they still have another to turn to and express freely.

Interesting.
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Unread postby mxguy01 » 13 November 2018, 18:04

I think the the hatred and bigotry that people are capable of is being discounted quite a bit here.
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Unread postby Tommiebee » 13 November 2018, 18:45

In my experience the most vocal homophobic people are projecting their own fears that they might be homosexual onto others around them. Are they likely truly homosexual? Hard to say. But they certainly fear that is the case, so they must have some inkling that those desires are lurking somewhere deep inside them awaiting the chance to reveal themselves.
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Unread postby azgayguy » 13 November 2018, 21:29

Growing up in a church the minister that threw the most fire and brimstone at us was gay and having sex with quite a few of the members. He was viscous sending some of us home to shake in bed at night and pray and then the next time you were alone with him he couldn't keep his hands off you. It was beyond fucked up and he was not the only one that preached at us that I found out was banging guys.

I also remember over the years of travel and gay parties having sex with politicians from both parties that were speaking out against gay rights and having sex with a dude 20 minutes later.
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Unread postby Gay-paul » 4 December 2018, 17:06

azgayguy wrote:Growing up in a church the minister that threw the most fire and brimstone at us was gay and having sex with quite a few of the members. He was viscous sending some of us home to shake in bed at night and pray and then the next time you were alone with him he couldn't keep his hands off you. It was beyond fucked up and he was not the only one that preached at us that I found out was banging guys.

I also remember over the years of travel and gay parties having sex with politicians from both parties that were speaking out against gay rights and having sex with a dude 20 minutes later.


I hope he wasn't a child molester?!, but if he wasn't and was just closed gay and hypocrite why no one outed him?!
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Unread postby BlackBoi666 » 4 December 2018, 17:49

because some of us don't want to be associated with the cancerous elements of the LGBT community: such as drag queens, exhibitionism, hypersexuality, ect, because its an embarrassment.
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Unread postby Crisis_Jay » 4 December 2018, 18:09

Eryx wrote:I don't think all homophobes are closeted gay guys, but there sure must be a bunch of them who fall under that category. It's true that some people cope with something they don't like about themselves by actively rejecting it. There are a bunch of stories of notorious racists who molested black women and men, which goes to show they were actually attracted to certain ethnicities and wouldn't accept it.

I have a theory that a lot of homophobes and anti-LGBT activists are actually bisexual. One of the most used arguments against homosexuality is that we choose to live in this "lifestyle", and that there are ways to celibacy and to converting back to heterosexuality, that it's taught or indoctrinated or a fruit of sexual assault etc.

Well, if you're born bisexual and you've always been attracted to both genders, you might conclude that everyone functions the same, that other people are choosing to be heterosexuals and that it is the right thing. That you can be whatever, but that you have to have the willpower to tread through the right path. You would never know what it's like to only like men or women, and that opens the opportunity to not believe that gay people don't choose their attraction, since you can.

Just a theory though.

I've thought the same things about these people having the ability to choose. I know I never did. I can appreciate a beautiful woman but absolutely no part of me wants to have sex with one. I honestly don't think I could. I consider myself 100% gay.

I also have a theory concerning people who identify as straight. When they masturbate they're touching their own genitals obviously. Maybe this builds an attraction for that body part, associating it with pleasure, so they all have that "gray" area you hear about? Sort of like looking at a juicy t-bone. If eating steak satisfies your hunger, wouldn't your appetite be sparked when you look at someone else's steak?

A little far fetched maybe. lol
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Unread postby azgayguy » 6 December 2018, 20:20

Gay-paul wrote:
azgayguy wrote:Growing up in a church the minister that threw the most fire and brimstone at us was gay and having sex with quite a few of the members. He was viscous sending some of us home to shake in bed at night and pray and then the next time you were alone with him he couldn't keep his hands off you. It was beyond fucked up and he was not the only one that preached at us that I found out was banging guys.

I also remember over the years of travel and gay parties having sex with politicians from both parties that were speaking out against gay rights and having sex with a dude 20 minutes later.


I hope he wasn't a child molester?!, but if he wasn't and was just closed gay and hypocrite why no one outed him?!


Oh he was but he would pray with you when he was done.


Thing is we had a police detective in our church. He covered up for him. He also covered up spousal abuse and child abuse. When I was in high school and went to the police in another town and filed a report. I reported my parents for child abuse and a minister for sexual abuse and named everyone he may have been with. The detective from church was the one that picked me up from the police station. I was threatened with my life that day if I didn't shut up. I knew another friend of mine was getting it from the same minister, he had told me the cop threatened to kill him as well. My police report was burned by the cop in a citrus orchard before he gave me a bare ass beating by a duty belt which really hurt. I thought he was going to rape me but I got a ass beating instead. I got another one at home. He told me call the cops on me, see what happens. He also covered up for the two female young men lovers in the church who were so kind as to take in the troubled boys for a week or two at a time when things got too tough at home.

Two of us went over the detectives head to the sheriff and guess who shows up to deal with our report, the detective from church. Again the report was destroyed and this time it was we will be killed or framed for something and sent to prison where he has men that will ass rape us the entire time we are there. We both got a ass beating that day as well. The sheriffs detective visited me at school one day after this and apologized for not being able to help us and that it was well over his head that said no. He said he was afraid for us and would pray for us but if he interfered he and his family was in danger. It was you will be 18 in a couple years and can quit church then but shut the fuck up or you will pay. Parents were threatened as well. We left that church on the spot.

The next church a elder knew how mom and I were treated at home, dad was called out by name in a service by the elder as a abuser. Dad never touched me other than with his belt. That was the last Sunday there. The next church the pig cop had moved to and I was 18 so I made sure to have to work late Sunday so I never made it there. Parents quit shortly after I did. My revenge on the cop was I had sex with his oldest daughter, he would kill me if he knew that but she hates him as much as I do. She told me her story, I loved her and wanted to marry her but she said her dad would kill me. Neither of his daughters have seen him since turning 18.

The cop was very powerful and of the few people left from that church nobody would dare say his name as he still has friends in high places. No wonder the number of kids from there that were on heroin and several died from overdoses. From the guys who were passed around only two of us are still alive and we both still have sex with men. The other guy who reported with me I told last week I was gay as well as his sister. He still will deny he is even though I have ran into him at a bath house in his home town.

The number of gay men who have told me stories like my own over the years is staggering.
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Unread postby Gay-paul » 7 December 2018, 13:05

azgayguy wrote:
Gay-paul wrote:
azgayguy wrote:Growing up in a church the minister that threw the most fire and brimstone at us was gay and having sex with quite a few of the members. He was viscous sending some of us home to shake in bed at night and pray and then the next time you were alone with him he couldn't keep his hands off you. It was beyond fucked up and he was not the only one that preached at us that I found out was banging guys.

I also remember over the years of travel and gay parties having sex with politicians from both parties that were speaking out against gay rights and having sex with a dude 20 minutes later.


I hope he wasn't a child molester?!, but if he wasn't and was just closed gay and hypocrite why no one outed him?!


Oh he was but he would pray with you when he was done.



Thing is we had a police detective in our church. He covered up for him. He also covered up spousal abuse and child abuse. When I was in high school and went to the police in another town and filed a report. I reported my parents for child abuse and a minister for sexual abuse and named everyone he may have been with. The detective from church was the one that picked me up from the police station. I was threatened with my life that day if I didn't shut up. I knew another friend of mine was getting it from the same minister, he had told me the cop threatened to kill him as well. My police report was burned by the cop in a citrus orchard before he gave me a bare ass beating by a duty belt which really hurt. I thought he was going to rape me but I got a ass beating instead. I got another one at home. He told me call the cops on me, see what happens. He also covered up for the two female young men lovers in the church who were so kind as to take in the troubled boys for a week or two at a time when things got too tough at home.

Two of us went over the detectives head to the sheriff and guess who shows up to deal with our report, the detective from church. Again the report was destroyed and this time it was we will be killed or framed for something and sent to prison where he has men that will ass rape us the entire time we are there. We both got a ass beating that day as well. The sheriffs detective visited me at school one day after this and apologized for not being able to help us and that it was well over his head that said no. He said he was afraid for us and would pray for us but if he interfered he and his family was in danger. It was you will be 18 in a couple years and can quit church then but shut the fuck up or you will pay. Parents were threatened as well. We left that church on the spot.

The next church a elder knew how mom and I were treated at home, dad was called out by name in a service by the elder as a abuser. Dad never touched me other than with his belt. That was the last Sunday there. The next church the pig cop had moved to and I was 18 so I made sure to have to work late Sunday so I never made it there. Parents quit shortly after I did. My revenge on the cop was I had sex with his oldest daughter, he would kill me if he knew that but she hates him as much as I do. She told me her story, I loved her and wanted to marry her but she said her dad would kill me. Neither of his daughters have seen him since turning 18.

The cop was very powerful and of the few people left from that church nobody would dare say his name as he still has friends in high places. No wonder the number of kids from there that were on heroin and several died from overdoses. From the guys who were passed around only two of us are still alive and we both still have sex with men. The other guy who reported with me I told last week I was gay as well as his sister. He still will deny he is even though I have ran into him at a bath house in his home town.

The number of gay men who have told me stories like my own over the years is staggering.


Bastards! :madred:

But national flag at your profile indicate that you're from United States,

why in that case, if the local police cooperate with these perverts, you have not approached the local FBI office, that's what your FBI is saying, how great and wonderful it is, why you did not go to them for help.

And what religion are you Catholic or Protestant? For me, in Poland, there was a similar story to yours, the local police protected the paedophile priest, the kid was contact up with the ABW jokily called as Abwhera (Agencja Bezpieczństwa Wentrznego- Internal Security Agency) our Polish equivalent of FBI, and they arrested him right away, even though the locals defended this pervert!
That they slander the good name of the priest, that they are bad guys because they reported to the priest to the SB (Służba Bezpieczństwa -) Security Service secret police in communist Poland, dissolved in 1989, reformed in UOP (Urząd Ochrony Państwa -Office of State Protection) and finally in the ABW in the early 2000s :-)
Even trough our ABW is not saint either they used to plant drugs in homes of people they suspected that they deal with drugs (old communist school of work) so they can arrest such individual and trail him, but now is come to surface and those people get new trails and they lost loot of good reputation.
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azgayguy wrote:
Gay-paul wrote:
azgayguy wrote:Growing up in a church the minister that threw the most fire and brimstone at us was gay and having sex with quite a few of the members. He was viscous sending some of us home to shake in bed at night and pray and then the next time you were alone with him he couldn't keep his hands off you. It was beyond fucked up and he was not the only one that preached at us that I found out was banging guys.

I also remember over the years of travel and gay parties having sex with politicians from both parties that were speaking out against gay rights and having sex with a dude 20 minutes later.


I hope he wasn't a child molester?!, but if he wasn't and was just closed gay and hypocrite why no one outed him?!


Oh he was but he would pray with you when he was done.


Thing is we had a police detective in our church. He covered up for him. He also covered up spousal abuse and child abuse. When I was in high school and went to the police in another town and filed a report. I reported my parents for child abuse and a minister for sexual abuse and named everyone he may have been with. The detective from church was the one that picked me up from the police station. I was threatened with my life that day if I didn't shut up. I knew another friend of mine was getting it from the same minister, he had told me the cop threatened to kill him as well. My police report was burned by the cop in a citrus orchard before he gave me a bare ass beating by a duty belt which really hurt. I thought he was going to rape me but I got a ass beating instead. I got another one at home. He told me call the cops on me, see what happens. He also covered up for the two female young men lovers in the church who were so kind as to take in the troubled boys for a week or two at a time when things got too tough at home.

Two of us went over the detectives head to the sheriff and guess who shows up to deal with our report, the detective from church. Again the report was destroyed and this time it was we will be killed or framed for something and sent to prison where he has men that will ass rape us the entire time we are there. We both got a ass beating that day as well. The sheriffs detective visited me at school one day after this and apologized for not being able to help us and that it was well over his head that said no. He said he was afraid for us and would pray for us but if he interfered he and his family was in danger. It was you will be 18 in a couple years and can quit church then but shut the fuck up or you will pay. Parents were threatened as well. We left that church on the spot.

The next church a elder knew how mom and I were treated at home, dad was called out by name in a service by the elder as a abuser. Dad never touched me other than with his belt. That was the last Sunday there. The next church the pig cop had moved to and I was 18 so I made sure to have to work late Sunday so I never made it there. Parents quit shortly after I did. My revenge on the cop was I had sex with his oldest daughter, he would kill me if he knew that but she hates him as much as I do. She told me her story, I loved her and wanted to marry her but she said her dad would kill me. Neither of his daughters have seen him since turning 18.

The cop was very powerful and of the few people left from that church nobody would dare say his name as he still has friends in high places. No wonder the number of kids from there that were on heroin and several died from overdoses. From the guys who were passed around only two of us are still alive and we both still have sex with men. The other guy who reported with me I told last week I was gay as well as his sister. He still will deny he is even though I have ran into him at a bath house in his home town.

The number of gay men who have told me stories like my own over the years is staggering.


Sometimes I was afraid that I could be such a degenerate because I like to watch porn with young actors, 18-20 years old :-(

But psychiatrist, I do not have to worry about anything, it's quite natural that it's like the heterosexual men who are fascinated by young women :-)
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Gay-paul wrote:
azgayguy wrote:
Gay-paul wrote:
azgayguy wrote:Growing up in a church the minister that threw the most fire and brimstone at us was gay and having sex with quite a few of the members. He was viscous sending some of us home to shake in bed at night and pray and then the next time you were alone with him he couldn't keep his hands off you. It was beyond fucked up and he was not the only one that preached at us that I found out was banging guys.

I also remember over the years of travel and gay parties having sex with politicians from both parties that were speaking out against gay rights and having sex with a dude 20 minutes later.


I hope he wasn't a child molester?!, but if he wasn't and was just closed gay and hypocrite why no one outed him?!


Oh he was but he would pray with you when he was done.



Thing is we had a police detective in our church. He covered up for him. He also covered up spousal abuse and child abuse. When I was in high school and went to the police in another town and filed a report. I reported my parents for child abuse and a minister for sexual abuse and named everyone he may have been with. The detective from church was the one that picked me up from the police station. I was threatened with my life that day if I didn't shut up. I knew another friend of mine was getting it from the same minister, he had told me the cop threatened to kill him as well. My police report was burned by the cop in a citrus orchard before he gave me a bare ass beating by a duty belt which really hurt. I thought he was going to rape me but I got a ass beating instead. I got another one at home. He told me call the cops on me, see what happens. He also covered up for the two female young men lovers in the church who were so kind as to take in the troubled boys for a week or two at a time when things got too tough at home.

Two of us went over the detectives head to the sheriff and guess who shows up to deal with our report, the detective from church. Again the report was destroyed and this time it was we will be killed or framed for something and sent to prison where he has men that will ass rape us the entire time we are there. We both got a ass beating that day as well. The sheriffs detective visited me at school one day after this and apologized for not being able to help us and that it was well over his head that said no. He said he was afraid for us and would pray for us but if he interfered he and his family was in danger. It was you will be 18 in a couple years and can quit church then but shut the fuck up or you will pay. Parents were threatened as well. We left that church on the spot.

The next church a elder knew how mom and I were treated at home, dad was called out by name in a service by the elder as a abuser. Dad never touched me other than with his belt. That was the last Sunday there. The next church the pig cop had moved to and I was 18 so I made sure to have to work late Sunday so I never made it there. Parents quit shortly after I did. My revenge on the cop was I had sex with his oldest daughter, he would kill me if he knew that but she hates him as much as I do. She told me her story, I loved her and wanted to marry her but she said her dad would kill me. Neither of his daughters have seen him since turning 18.

The cop was very powerful and of the few people left from that church nobody would dare say his name as he still has friends in high places. No wonder the number of kids from there that were on heroin and several died from overdoses. From the guys who were passed around only two of us are still alive and we both still have sex with men. The other guy who reported with me I told last week I was gay as well as his sister. He still will deny he is even though I have ran into him at a bath house in his home town.

The number of gay men who have told me stories like my own over the years is staggering.


Bastards! :madred:

But national flag at your profile indicate that you're from United States,

why in that case, if the local police cooperate with these perverts, you have not approached the local FBI office, that's what your FBI is saying, how great and wonderful it is, why you did not go to them for help.

And what religion are you Catholic or Protestant? For me, in Poland, there was a similar story to yours, the local police protected the paedophile priest, the kid was contact up with the ABW jokily called as Abwhera (Agencja Bezpieczństwa Wentrznego- Internal Security Agency) our Polish equivalent of FBI, and they arrested him right away, even though the locals defended this pervert!
That they slander the good name of the priest, that they are bad guys because they reported to the priest to the SB (Służba Bezpieczństwa -) Security Service secret police in communist Poland, dissolved in 1989, reformed in UOP (Urząd Ochrony Państwa -Office of State Protection) and finally in the ABW in the early 2000s :-)
Even trough our ABW is not saint either they used to plant drugs in homes of people they suspected that they deal with drugs (old communist school of work) so they can arrest such individual and trail him, but now is come to surface and those people get new trails and they lost loot of good reputation.


I did not go to a catholic church, it was a far right christian church. I would say the cop didn't want to look bad for a gay minister in his church as well as two women that took young troubled boys into her home when things were bad at their homes and then had sex with them. I have met gay men from other religions over the years with very similar stories of cops covering it up so they don't look bad for it going on under their noses. Police around the world have been covering up the abuse of the catholic church for years, not a far reach that they covered up in other churches as well. Hell google LA county sheriffs department badge and on the badge it has a pedophile symbol repeated, FBI says the symbol is used by pedophiles and yet that department uses it on their badge, that right there should tell you something. Look at Hollywood which is in LA county and how they have covered up for movie executives that have been doing kids for years. I have met a few Hollywood actors over the years as there are a lot of gay ones and they talk about producers and directors having sex with them as minors, it is really messed up.

It is not just here it is world wide. I will say this much about police, I hate them and if I ever get forced to sit on a jury it is not guilty regardless of evidence as you can not trust the word of someone allowed to lie as part of their job.
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azgayguy wrote:
Gay-paul wrote:
azgayguy wrote:
Gay-paul wrote:
azgayguy wrote:Growing up in a church the minister that threw the most fire and brimstone at us was gay and having sex with quite a few of the members. He was viscous sending some of us home to shake in bed at night and pray and then the next time you were alone with him he couldn't keep his hands off you. It was beyond fucked up and he was not the only one that preached at us that I found out was banging guys.

I also remember over the years of travel and gay parties having sex with politicians from both parties that were speaking out against gay rights and having sex with a dude 20 minutes later.


I hope he wasn't a child molester?!, but if he wasn't and was just closed gay and hypocrite why no one outed him?!


Oh he was but he would pray with you when he was done.



Thing is we had a police detective in our church. He covered up for him. He also covered up spousal abuse and child abuse. When I was in high school and went to the police in another town and filed a report. I reported my parents for child abuse and a minister for sexual abuse and named everyone he may have been with. The detective from church was the one that picked me up from the police station. I was threatened with my life that day if I didn't shut up. I knew another friend of mine was getting it from the same minister, he had told me the cop threatened to kill him as well. My police report was burned by the cop in a citrus orchard before he gave me a bare ass beating by a duty belt which really hurt. I thought he was going to rape me but I got a ass beating instead. I got another one at home. He told me call the cops on me, see what happens. He also covered up for the two female young men lovers in the church who were so kind as to take in the troubled boys for a week or two at a time when things got too tough at home.

Two of us went over the detectives head to the sheriff and guess who shows up to deal with our report, the detective from church. Again the report was destroyed and this time it was we will be killed or framed for something and sent to prison where he has men that will ass rape us the entire time we are there. We both got a ass beating that day as well. The sheriffs detective visited me at school one day after this and apologized for not being able to help us and that it was well over his head that said no. He said he was afraid for us and would pray for us but if he interfered he and his family was in danger. It was you will be 18 in a couple years and can quit church then but shut the fuck up or you will pay. Parents were threatened as well. We left that church on the spot.

The next church a elder knew how mom and I were treated at home, dad was called out by name in a service by the elder as a abuser. Dad never touched me other than with his belt. That was the last Sunday there. The next church the pig cop had moved to and I was 18 so I made sure to have to work late Sunday so I never made it there. Parents quit shortly after I did. My revenge on the cop was I had sex with his oldest daughter, he would kill me if he knew that but she hates him as much as I do. She told me her story, I loved her and wanted to marry her but she said her dad would kill me. Neither of his daughters have seen him since turning 18.

The cop was very powerful and of the few people left from that church nobody would dare say his name as he still has friends in high places. No wonder the number of kids from there that were on heroin and several died from overdoses. From the guys who were passed around only two of us are still alive and we both still have sex with men. The other guy who reported with me I told last week I was gay as well as his sister. He still will deny he is even though I have ran into him at a bath house in his home town.

The number of gay men who have told me stories like my own over the years is staggering.


Bastards! :madred:

But national flag at your profile indicate that you're from United States,

why in that case, if the local police cooperate with these perverts, you have not approached the local FBI office, that's what your FBI is saying, how great and wonderful it is, why you did not go to them for help.

And what religion are you Catholic or Protestant? For me, in Poland, there was a similar story to yours, the local police protected the paedophile priest, the kid was contact up with the ABW jokily called as Abwhera (Agencja Bezpieczństwa Wentrznego- Internal Security Agency) our Polish equivalent of FBI, and they arrested him right away, even though the locals defended this pervert!
That they slander the good name of the priest, that they are bad guys because they reported to the priest to the SB (Służba Bezpieczństwa -) Security Service secret police in communist Poland, dissolved in 1989, reformed in UOP (Urząd Ochrony Państwa -Office of State Protection) and finally in the ABW in the early 2000s :-)
Even trough our ABW is not saint either they used to plant drugs in homes of people they suspected that they deal with drugs (old communist school of work) so they can arrest such individual and trail him, but now is come to surface and those people get new trails and they lost loot of good reputation.


I did not go to a catholic church, it was a far right christian church. I would say the cop didn't want to look bad for a gay minister in his church as well as two women that took young troubled boys into her home when things were bad at their homes and then had sex with them. I have met gay men from other religions over the years with very similar stories of cops covering it up so they don't look bad for it going on under their noses. Police around the world have been covering up the abuse of the catholic church for years, not a far reach that they covered up in other churches as well. Hell google LA county sheriffs department badge and on the badge it has a pedophile symbol repeated, FBI says the symbol is used by pedophiles and yet that department uses it on their badge, that right there should tell you something. Look at Hollywood which is in LA county and how they have covered up for movie executives that have been doing kids for years. I have met a few Hollywood actors over the years as there are a lot of gay ones and they talk about producers and directors having sex with them as minors, it is really messed up.

It is not just here it is world wide. I will say this much about police, I hate them and if I ever get forced to sit on a jury it is not guilty regardless of evidence as you can not trust the word of someone allowed to lie as part of their job.


WTF:
I would say the cop didn't want to look bad for a gay minister in his church as well as two women that took young troubled boys into her home when things were bad at their homes and then had sex with them.

That sick :madred:

How the had sex with the older woman or the minister? How old was thy if I can ask?

I just googled the LA Badge and is the real thing, that pedo symbol!

But there is something in it, I've heard that all Hollywood is the same if it's not worse infiltrated by paedophiles than the Vatican!

By the way, I heard about the paedophile affair, made by Roman Polanski, before this scandal he was presented as an outstanding American director of Jewish descent born in Polsc.

But after this affair, it suddenly changed to disgraced Polish-born Director, I wonder why? :D


I had an uncle who was an engineer, and more specifically an electrical engineering engineer.
During Communism he was an active member of the Communist Party, and after political changes in Poland, a member of the SLD (Democratic Left Alliance) of the largest leftist party in Poland, although most of my mother's family members were hardened right-wingers despite the fact that it was very unpopular under communism, only my uncle and my mother had left-wing views, although my mother never signed up to the party.

My mother told me that an altar in his youth was an altar boy, but then he changed his views.
Uncle shortly before his death confessed to me that he was molested by the priest and since then he does not like the Roman Catholic church.

I also heard rumours that my uncle was a freemason, and many even believe in it, because the funeral speaker, who was uncle friend secular humanist and member of Engineer Association, and that was some people said there head masonic symbols during funeral :D
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You think that's bad we have a shopping center in Phoenix that has the symbol on all its signs. They have a lot of kids stores in there, big mall and shopping centers on the outside of it.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ShopArrowhe ... 4355216815

Hollywood is no where near as bad as the Catholic church but it is bad. Years ago I met a gay man who had retired as a Swiss Guard, he worked on the inside of the Vatican and saw things that were so horrific that it is almost unbelievable. We spent a couple weeks together and I visited him in Italy. He gave me a tour which most people don't get and was shown a couple rooms most Catholics will never see. He also showed me where they brought their part favors into the place and said they go in but will never come out, we watched a bus load of kids go in with police escorting them. It is its own nation state so nobody can go in and stop what has gone on there for many decades. No church should have its own country and government.

I know several actors and actresses and they all started young. One man told me about his having sex by studio owner when he got his first movie. He introduced me to some other male actors who also had the same experiences. I met a few actresses as well as a few that are singers, they were all molested to get their early start and a couple in particular are really fucked up, they have some tales to tell and it is doubtful they will ever get justice for what happened. Sad thing is their parents knew and accepted it, they also cashed in until they were old enough to take control and some were left penniless as their parents spent all their money. One woman cried when she said her parents took her to a producers home and told her she better make him happy and get parts. She is so fucked up, I feel sorry for her. Many of them have come forward to file reports only to have themselves arrested after being strung out of drugs while they get away with it. I have become friends with them over the years and will not name names as they already have enough trouble. One has become successful and would not want their career ruined.

Then there is the governments of the world. Lots of pedophiles in government and in the military, pentagon workers have been caught buying underage material on government credit cards and nothing happened. Then there is the UN, the red cross and several other charities that are heavily involved. There are always articles of UN peace keepers raping wherever they go. Then there is the Clinton foundation which took in over a billion and yet they can't find any kid they helped. Even the Baptists had plane loads of kids from Haiti that disappeared once in the US that there is no accounting for.

So yeah this shit is everywhere. I know people hate Trump but if he does what he promised a lot of these organizations are about to go away. Bye bye pedowood, the Vatican, the Clinton Foundation and so on.

My dad was a Freemason. He said all was fine until the last degree where he was to renounce God and embrace Satan. I remember them sitting outside our house intimidating him when he left. Don't forget Skull and Bones, sick fucks literally run the world.
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An elected official with the same symbol.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sheila+ ... BA#imgrc=_
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Unread postby Gay-paul » 8 December 2018, 15:24

azgayguy wrote:An elected official with the same symbol.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sheila+ ... BA#imgrc=_


I hate those who hurt those poor kids but on another hand, 18-20 dudes turn me on, I feel like perv myself because of it :(
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Unread postby Eryx » 8 December 2018, 15:33

You can't be a pervert for being attracted to people over 18.
azgayguy wrote:[...] My dad was a Freemason. He said all was fine until the last degree where he was to renounce God and embrace Satan. I remember them sitting outside our house intimidating him when he left. [...]
Okay, this is bullshit, which makes me think everything you said is.
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Unread postby Gay-paul » 8 December 2018, 15:41

azgayguy wrote:You think that's bad we have a shopping center in Phoenix that has the symbol on all its signs. They have a lot of kids stores in there, big mall and shopping centers on the outside of it.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ShopArrowhe ... 4355216815

Hollywood is no where near as bad as the Catholic church but it is bad. Years ago I met a gay man who had retired as a Swiss Guard, he worked on the inside of the Vatican and saw things that were so horrific that it is almost unbelievable. We spent a couple weeks together and I visited him in Italy. He gave me a tour which most people don't get and was shown a couple rooms most Catholics will never see. He also showed me where they brought their part favors into the place and said they go in but will never come out, we watched a bus load of kids go in with police escorting them. It is its own nation state so nobody can go in and stop what has gone on there for many decades. No church should have its own country and government.

I know several actors and actresses and they all started young. One man told me about his having sex by studio owner when he got his first movie. He introduced me to some other male actors who also had the same experiences. I met a few actresses as well as a few that are singers, they were all molested to get their early start and a couple in particular are really fucked up, they have some tales to tell and it is doubtful they will ever get justice for what happened. Sad thing is their parents knew and accepted it, they also cashed in until they were old enough to take control and some were left penniless as their parents spent all their money. One woman cried when she said her parents took her to a producers home and told her she better make him happy and get parts. She is so fucked up, I feel sorry for her. Many of them have come forward to file reports only to have themselves arrested after being strung out of drugs while they get away with it. I have become friends with them over the years and will not name names as they already have enough trouble. One has become successful and would not want their career ruined.

Then there is the governments of the world. Lots of pedophiles in government and in the military, pentagon workers have been caught buying underage material on government credit cards and nothing happened. Then there is the UN, the red cross and several other charities that are heavily involved. There are always articles of UN peace keepers raping wherever they go. Then there is the Clinton foundation which took in over a billion and yet they can't find any kid they helped. Even the Baptists had plane loads of kids from Haiti that disappeared once in the US that there is no accounting for.

So yeah this shit is everywhere. I know people hate Trump but if he does what he promised a lot of these organizations are about to go away. Bye bye pedowood, the Vatican, the Clinton Foundation and so on.

My dad was a Freemason. He said all was fine until the last degree where he was to renounce God and embrace Satan. I remember them sitting outside our house intimidating him when he left. Don't forget Skull and Bones, sick fucks literally run the world.


My dad was a Freemason. He said all was fine until the last degree where he was to renounce God and embrace Satan. I remember them sitting outside our house intimidating him when he left. Don't forget Skull and Bones, sick fucks literally run the world


What are you fucking man ?! I thought it was just a conspiracy theory ?!
I like to read a lot about freemasons and illuminati, it's nice to read. One Polish vloger once made videos about mass and Illuminati, he also once made a video about Rothschilds and the battle of Waterloo, and youtube removed this video, and gave him a temporary ban, for promoting anti-Semitism and fake news!
And they also removed his videos about Rapes in Germany by refugees as fake news
So much for free speech on YouTube :D

I also read about the fact that Kevin Spacy molested the young actor Anthony Rapp, then I lost all respect for Spacy!
By the way, Anthony Rapp, a cool actor and gay in real life, as well as the first gay in Star Trek :D
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