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Unread postby poof4you » 8 October 2021, 04:11

How about a movie where one learns to see the inner beauty of another man, instead of focusing on their physical attraction?
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby Marmaduke » 8 October 2021, 06:01

You gonna write it? Because I’m not.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby poof4you » 8 October 2021, 07:55

Gay edition of: Shallow Hal (2001)
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby rogonandi » 8 October 2021, 08:33

poof4you wrote:Gay edition of: Shallow Hal (2001)

I was just thinking about that movie when I saw the original post.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby PopTart » 8 October 2021, 16:14

Meh, gay films are inevitably, varying hues of shite. You've seen one, you've seen them all and just that one will have you wishing you coud claw back your valuable time. Changing up the formula in such an obvious way, wont save this movie from it's fecal destiny.

No. How about a regular film, albeit, perhaps not one of the craptaculars Hollywood shovels out these days, that is all flash and no substance, but a film about something other than being gay, but the main charater, just happens to, you know, be gay, has a bf/husband or not. And the film doesn't revolve around the fact he is gay, but have that just be a part of who he is. Maybe, don't have him having to deal with stereotypical "gay problems" like coming out, bigotry, homophobia, HIV. Maybe this gay main character, contends with the same things that his character would, if he wasn't gay?

Nah. Who am I kidding? It would never work.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby poof4you » 9 October 2021, 03:41

PopTart wrote:Meh, gay films are inevitably, varying hues of shite. You've seen one, you've seen them all and just that one will have you wishing you coud claw back your valuable time. Changing up the formula in such an obvious way, wont save this movie from it's fecal destiny.

No. How about a regular film, albeit, perhaps not one of the craptaculars Hollywood shovels out these days, that is all flash and no substance, but a film about something other than being gay, but the main charater, just happens to, you know, be gay, has a bf/husband or not. And the film doesn't revolve around the fact he is gay, but have that just be a part of who he is. Maybe, don't have him having to deal with stereotypical "gay problems" like coming out, bigotry, homophobia, HIV. Maybe this gay main character, contends with the same things that his character would, if he wasn't gay?

Nah. Who am I kidding? It would never work.


Alright, well maybe we'll have to wait around 15-years to see in the director's cut for 'No Time To Die' if there's a deleted scene, where James Bond comes out stating that he's really been in the closet all these years, but it hurts to keep himself undercover (in the closet).

Oh, wait he's coming out... :gay:

What about a new movie where a few scenes are stolen from Crowley's 'The Boys in the Band (1970)', to identify that the protagonist in an Action-Adventure, Thriller, Suspense, or some other film is gay? :shrug:
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby PopTart » 9 October 2021, 06:35

poof4you wrote:
PopTart wrote:Meh, gay films are inevitably, varying hues of shite. You've seen one, you've seen them all and just that one will have you wishing you coud claw back your valuable time. Changing up the formula in such an obvious way, wont save this movie from it's fecal destiny.

No. How about a regular film, albeit, perhaps not one of the craptaculars Hollywood shovels out these days, that is all flash and no substance, but a film about something other than being gay, but the main charater, just happens to, you know, be gay, has a bf/husband or not. And the film doesn't revolve around the fact he is gay, but have that just be a part of who he is. Maybe, don't have him having to deal with stereotypical "gay problems" like coming out, bigotry, homophobia, HIV. Maybe this gay main character, contends with the same things that his character would, if he wasn't gay?

Nah. Who am I kidding? It would never work.


Alright, well maybe we'll have to wait around 15-years to see in the director's cut for 'No Time To Die' if there's a deleted scene, where James Bond comes out stating that he's really been in the closet all these years, but it hurts to keep himself undercover (in the closet).

Oh, wait he's coming out... :gay:

What about a new movie where a few scenes are stolen from Crowley's 'The Boys in the Band (1970)', to identify that the protagonist in an Action-Adventure, Thriller, Suspense, or some other film is gay? :shrug:

I'm actually disappointed by the decision with Bond. Instead of creating a new character, Hollywood have chosen to appropriate a well established one, in one of their usual lazy attempts to sensationalise the matter, rather than do something artful and build up such a thing from the ground up.

It's like those movies that change the race or gender of iconic characters, it implies that a gay character isn't able to carry itself, or in the case of those other examples, a female one or ethnic one. On their own merits.

They need to adopt the "legend" of otherwise, straight, white, male characters to make it.

Not to mention it has the opposite effect to what that kind of visibility in a movie should accomplish. Making homosexuality seem normal and thus, more widely accepted. Instead galvanising resentment and anger when a much loved character is appropriated for somebody else's cause.

It kinda sucks.

I'd much prefer original material, with original content.

If we are to look back at previously produced media for representation and encouragement for our orientations, the best we might do, is learn that the stars who played those roles, were actually gay.

Or have made, new films, that don't make being gay, the center of every gay characters existence, either as a supporting character (the gay friend, a chance to march out every gay trope imaginable) or as the lead.

New role models. Not recycled or ham fistedly appropriated ones.

Don't get me wrong, there have been some film about being gay, that aren't entirely awful, but they all follow the same formula. They all make being gay seem like the central aspect of anyone's identity.

One of the few films about being gay I actually love, despite some awful editing, especially on the sound front, was Prayers for Bobby. Which wasn't really about Bobby and his being gay but was about his mother and her inability to accept his sexuality and how that shaped his own struggle that ended badly. It's one of the few films that actually steps away from the tired, worn and well trod path other gay themed films meander down.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby pozboro » 9 October 2021, 07:29

I think we should put the Boys in the Band on the Uruguayan rugby team's flight in Survive! and see what sort of original content comes out the tailpipe.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby PopTart » 9 October 2021, 15:04

pozboro wrote:I think we should put the Boys in the Band on the Uruguayan rugby team's flight in Survive! and see what sort of original content comes out the tailpipe.

That was a good film. Or I may be thinking of the 90's remake, Alive.

I saw it once, back when it came out at the age of 10. It stuck with me all that time.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 9 October 2021, 16:06

I think we need gay movies that transcend the kind of mopey woe-is-me cliche and branch out into different genres, like sci-fi. I don’t mean Gayniggers from Outer Space exactly, but something more subdued for contemporary tastes. Although, we already have X-Men, and that’s very obviously gay, so maybe we’re too late for new ideas.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby PopTart » 9 October 2021, 16:51

poolerboy0077 wrote:I think we need gay movies that transcend the kind of mopey woe-is-me cliche and branch out into different genres, like sci-fi. I don’t mean Gayniggers from Outer Space exactly, but something more subdued for contemporary tastes. Although, we already have X-Men, and that’s very obviously gay, so maybe we’re too late for new ideas.

I guess X-Men is pretty campy. I do agree though, surely we have had enough of doe eyed twinks (except in porn :P ) dealing with the same angst ridden travails of having to find acceptance in a society that champions their cause at every turn?
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby pozboro » 9 October 2021, 17:59

PopTart wrote:
pozboro wrote:I think we should put the Boys in the Band on the Uruguayan rugby team's flight in Survive! and see what sort of original content comes out the tailpipe.

That was a good film. Or I may be thinking of the 90's remake, Alive.

I saw it once, back when it came out at the age of 10. It stuck with me all that time.


seen 'em all (BitB, Survive, Alive) as an adult - I'm afraid to ask exactly what stuck with you, but at least you're polite enough not to use Hannibal for a nick! :devil: :lol:
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby pozboro » 9 October 2021, 18:03

I really liked the Spanish one about some bears taking in a kid (think it was from a failed relationship where one of the characters tried to be 'normal') and how their lives changed because of being dads.

Problem is, the usual formula makes money. I read something about it a few years back. Let me put it this way: which is going to sell more? Twinks at the beach or older bears going to work?
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby PopTart » 9 October 2021, 18:07

pozboro wrote:
PopTart wrote:
pozboro wrote:I think we should put the Boys in the Band on the Uruguayan rugby team's flight in Survive! and see what sort of original content comes out the tailpipe.

That was a good film. Or I may be thinking of the 90's remake, Alive.

I saw it once, back when it came out at the age of 10. It stuck with me all that time.


seen 'em all (BitB, Survive, Alive) as an adult - I'm afraid to ask exactly what stuck with you, but at least you're polite enough not to use Hannibal for a nick! :devil: :lol:
I rather enjoyed Hannibal actually, the series I mean. :lol:

But no, the cannibalism wasn't what stuck with me per se. More the moral dilemma that came with it.

I also love disaster movies. And shows. I'm one of the only people I know, who watches Aircrash investigations (Mayday in the states) the night before a flight. :crazy: I know.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby PopTart » 9 October 2021, 18:31

pozboro wrote:seen 'em all (BitB, Survive, Alive) as an adult - I'm afraid to ask exactly what stuck with you, but at least you're polite enough not to use Hannibal for a nick! :devil: :lol:

Got a favourite?

pozboro wrote:I really liked the Spanish one about some bears taking in a kid (think it was from a failed relationship where one of the characters tried to be 'normal') and how their lives changed because of being dads.

Problem is, the usual formula makes money. I read something about it a few years back. Let me put it this way: which is going to sell more? Twinks at the beach or older bears going to work?
there are some foreign language films that do take a different bite at the apple. That is true. Plus the shit acting is harder to notice if you don't speak the language and watch subbed.

That Argentine movie about the gay brothers, I loved it but someone (possibly Eryx) said the acting is bad if you speak Spanish. I didn't so it didn't bother me.

I don't really like slice of life stuff that much. I'd like more sci-fi, action or even fantasy that had prominent gay characters, that weren't singled out as such.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 9 October 2021, 18:44

PopTart wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:I think we need gay movies that transcend the kind of mopey woe-is-me cliche and branch out into different genres, like sci-fi. I don’t mean Gayniggers from Outer Space exactly, but something more subdued for contemporary tastes. Although, we already have X-Men, and that’s very obviously gay, so maybe we’re too late for new ideas.

I guess X-Men is pretty campy. I do agree though, surely we have had enough of doe eyed twinks (except in porn :P ) dealing with the same angst ridden travails of having to find acceptance in a society that champions their cause at every turn?

Oh no, I didn’t mean X-Men being campy. I mean that its storyline is an allusion to homosexuality. This is obvious especially in X-Men: The Last Stand when they try to find a “cure” for being a mutant and how they have to be in the closet, etc.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby PopTart » 9 October 2021, 19:02

poolerboy0077 wrote:
PopTart wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:I think we need gay movies that transcend the kind of mopey woe-is-me cliche and branch out into different genres, like sci-fi. I don’t mean Gayniggers from Outer Space exactly, but something more subdued for contemporary tastes. Although, we already have X-Men, and that’s very obviously gay, so maybe we’re too late for new ideas.

I guess X-Men is pretty campy. I do agree though, surely we have had enough of doe eyed twinks (except in porn :P ) dealing with the same angst ridden travails of having to find acceptance in a society that champions their cause at every turn?

Oh no, I didn’t mean X-Men being campy. I mean that its storyline is an allusion to homosexuality. This is obvious especially in X-Men: The Last Stand when they try to find a “cure” for being a mutant and how they have to be in the closet, etc.

I always felt it was too obvious to be intentional, surely?
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby poof4you » 10 October 2021, 03:14

Here's a new Horror from BlumHouse... "an LGBTQIA+ empowerment tale that unfolds at a conversion therapy camp"

It's currently untitled.
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby pozboro » 11 October 2021, 03:42

poof4you wrote:Here's a new Horror from BlumHouse... "an LGBTQIA+ empowerment tale that unfolds at a conversion therapy camp"

It's currently untitled.


Prey the Gay Away?
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Re: Idea for a movie...

Unread postby ThatNomad » 11 October 2021, 03:45

PopTart wrote:Meh, gay films are inevitably, varying hues of shite. You've seen one, you've seen them all and just that one will have you wishing you coud claw back your valuable time. Changing up the formula in such an obvious way, wont save this movie from it's fecal destiny.

No. How about a regular film, albeit, perhaps not one of the craptaculars Hollywood shovels out these days, that is all flash and no substance, but a film about something other than being gay, but the main charater, just happens to, you know, be gay, has a bf/husband or not. And the film doesn't revolve around the fact he is gay, but have that just be a part of who he is. Maybe, don't have him having to deal with stereotypical "gay problems" like coming out, bigotry, homophobia, HIV. Maybe this gay main character, contends with the same things that his character would, if he wasn't gay?

Nah. Who am I kidding? It would never work.


This was what I liked about the novel The Starless Sea. The main character was gay, but it wasn't a gay story. It was great seeing that. That's the kind of true representation I want to see.
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