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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 23 April 2014, 10:35

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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 3 May 2014, 10:00

This is pretty cool. Justice Kagan was part of a judge panel of a moot court for George Washington University:



I also found one with Justice Sotomayor in UC Berkeley:

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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby Eirik » 20 May 2014, 23:47

That has nothing whatsoever with educational standards, it has everything to do with how we define masculinities and you know it does.
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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby Brenden » 21 May 2014, 12:02

Eirik wrote:That has nothing whatsoever with educational standards, it has everything to do with how we define masculinities and you know it does.

Woah, there, no need for the aggressive tone!

No, I don't, please elaborate.
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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby Brenden » 21 May 2014, 13:06

I had only one male teacher in primary school. I remember that he was stricter — he didn't put up with boys' bullshit — but he was also better at getting the boys, including myself, more interested in the material.
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Unread postby Kortex » 21 May 2014, 18:14

Eirik wrote:That has nothing whatsoever with educational standards, it has everything to do with how we define masculinities and you know it does.


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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby Eirik » 22 May 2014, 00:37

Brenden wrote:Woah, there, no need for the aggressive tone!


Sorry! I didn't mean for that to come across as aggressive!

What I was getting at, without saying it, was that the way gendered behaviour tends to be interpreted in schools is nothing more than an extension of the attitudes which inform the current paradigmatic understanding of behaviour linked to sex which, at least in the popular sphere, is that boys are x and girls are y- that is that traits are innately sex specific.

I was also saying that you know as well as the rest of us that this is constructed (not essential) and that girls are just as capable of displaying what that video suggests boyish behaviour constitutes. They certainly did at my school!
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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 22 May 2014, 02:00

Eirik wrote:
Brenden wrote:Woah, there, no need for the aggressive tone!


Sorry! I didn't mean for that to come across as aggressive!

What I was getting at, without saying it, was that the way gendered behaviour tends to be interpreted in schools is nothing more than an extension of the attitudes which inform the current paradigmatic understanding of behaviour linked to sex which, at least in the popular sphere, is that boys are x and girls are y- that is that traits are innately sex specific.

I was also saying that you know as well as the rest of us that this is constructed (not essential) and that girls are just as capable of displaying what that video suggests boyish behaviour constitutes. They certainly did at my school!

I'm not convinced that this is constructed -- not entirely at least. Cognitive scientists, like Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker, have noted, for instance, that there are a number of abilities in which a sex has a statistical advantage: men are better at throwing whereas women are more dexterous; men are better at mentally rotating shapes whereas women are better at visual memory; men are better at problem solving whereas women are better at mathematical calculations. The issue Brenden's video attempts to address is about how our educational system is structured in such a way that it favors abilities more commonly found in females than males. If, for instance, men are better at problem-solving but math curricula emphasizes mathematical calculations, we can expect to see a difference in student results. These statistical advantages are not sex differences per se, mind you, but they will nonetheless affect performance outcomes. I feel that Brenden's video did not make a strong case that this educational structuring was done deliberately or out of malice, so calling it a "war on boys" is rather hyperbolic. I do think it has merit in calling attention to innate differences and how curricula that is not well-rounded can disadvantage one sex over the other. I wonder how the new Common Core approach to mathematics in the U.S., which is purported to incorporate both procedural fluency and conceptual understanding in mathematics, can even the playing field.
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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby Brenden » 22 May 2014, 12:16

poolerboy0077 wrote:I feel that Brenden's video did not make a strong case that this educational structuring was done deliberately or out of malice, so calling it a "war on boys" is rather hyperbolic.

Indeed. It is from the YouTube channel of a conservative talk-show host, by the way. :P
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Unread postby Courage » 22 May 2014, 13:39

Eirik wrote:
Brenden wrote:Woah, there, no need for the aggressive tone!


Sorry! I didn't mean for that to come across as aggressive!

What I was getting at, without saying it, was that the way gendered behaviour tends to be interpreted in schools is nothing more than an extension of the attitudes which inform the current paradigmatic understanding of behaviour linked to sex which, at least in the popular sphere, is that boys are x and girls are y- that is that traits are innately sex specific.

I was also saying that you know as well as the rest of us that this is constructed (not essential) and that girls are just as capable of displaying what that video suggests boyish behaviour constitutes. They certainly did at my school!

I would agree that women are just as capable of these characteristics but not nearly as likely. Testosterone has been linked to dominance, risk-taking, leadership etc. There is a nature-nurture balance rather than the nature vs nurture that so many people believe in. Sexual dimorphism plays an enormous role in our lives. Continuing to make the absurd claim that male/female behavior is a social construct is counter-productive and only adds to the problem that Brenden's video shows.
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Unread postby 新世界より » 22 May 2014, 23:50

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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 23 May 2014, 00:28

Brenden wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:I feel that Brenden's video did not make a strong case that this educational structuring was done deliberately or out of malice, so calling it a "war on boys" is rather hyperbolic.

Indeed. It is from the YouTube channel of a conservative talk-show host, by the way. :P

Hyperbole aside, what do you think of the over all message of the video?
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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby Brenden » 23 May 2014, 11:44

poolerboy0077 wrote:
Brenden wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:I feel that Brenden's video did not make a strong case that this educational structuring was done deliberately or out of malice, so calling it a "war on boys" is rather hyperbolic.

Indeed. It is from the YouTube channel of a conservative talk-show host, by the way. :P

Hyperbole aside, what do you think of the over all message of the video?

I think it makes a lot of good and valid points. I can look back at my own experiences and observations throughout my primary and secondary schooling and see a lot of what the video talks about playing out to the detriment of myself and fellow boys.
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Re: Intellectually-Stimulating YouTube Find Thread

Unread postby Eirik » 23 May 2014, 18:31

poolerboy0077 wrote:Cognitive scientists, like Harvard psychologist (link) have noted, for instance, that there are a number of abilities in which a sex has a statistical advantage: men are better at throwing whereas women are more dexterous; men are better at mentally rotating shapes whereas women are better at visual memory; men are better at problem solving whereas women are better at mathematical calculations.


But, but, but, BUT on the other side of the psychological sphere, we can look at writers such as Mead, Gergen and Tajfel. If we look at it from the psychosocial view, what really makes the difference is that boys will of course develop greater strength than girls if you put them out to play actively and physically whilst keeping girls inside having tea parties. You can ascribe it to nature all you like, but it isn't natural in the slightest. I won't mention Butler, because I don't think she would go down well here.
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