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Love, Simon

Unread postby scotty19 » 27 June 2020, 08:54

So, who's watched Love, Simon?

If you haven't, it's a great film about a guy who is gay. He finds it hard to tell friends & family. At first he's kind of on his own with things and loses friends, but in the end, all is happy.

I've cried at the film as it reminds me of me. Coming out is just so scary. You're worried you'll lose the people you love and who love you, but I guess ultimately... if they really do love you, they will love you for being you.

The film encouraged me to tell more friends. Has anyone watched this film and been inspired by it?
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby ThatNomad » 27 June 2020, 11:40

I have been wanting to watch it quite badly, but I haven't had a chance to yet. What you've said has made me want to even more. I think, honestly, I'll probably read the book first. Have you read the book?
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Severelius » 27 June 2020, 11:50

ThatNomad wrote:I have been wanting to watch it quite badly, but I haven't had a chance to yet. What you've said has made me want to even more. I think, honestly, I'll probably read the book first. Have you read the book?

I read the book after I watched the film and I really wish I'd done the book first.

Not that the film is bad, I bloody love the film, but it didn't give me the same enjoyment that the book did. Because the book is hilarious, heartbreaking, heartwarming, adorable and kind of hot in roughly equal measure somehow.

The book gave me serious feels.

All the film really gave me is a crush on Nick Robinson and a renewed crush on Keiynan Lonsdale.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby ThatNomad » 27 June 2020, 11:52

Well, based on the image you used as your avatar I say we at least have an affinity for the same series, so perhaps I will enjoy the book as much as you do!

And as for Keiynan Lonsdale, well, that man is beyond beautiful. I'm just so amazed the crush had to be renewed, haha.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Severelius » 27 June 2020, 11:58

ThatNomad wrote:Well, based on the image you used as your avatar I say we at least have an affinity for the same series, so perhaps I will enjoy the book as much as you do!

And as for Keiynan Lonsdale, well, that man is beyond beautiful. I'm just so amazed the crush had to be renewed, haha.

Renewed was a bad choice of words. It's more like it'd been a while since I'd seen him in anything at the time I watched Love, Simon and was instantly reminded of how much I'd love to be on my knees with a mouthful of him.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby ThatNomad » 27 June 2020, 12:00

Oh okay, yeah, that I can get behind. Or in front of. Haha. Whichever you'd prefer.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 27 June 2020, 18:44

There’s now Love, Victor because the original was too “problematic.”
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Eryx » 27 June 2020, 20:42

I watched it and it was alright, but I didn't like the acting all that much and the story is quite tame. It's like Prayers for Bobby, but sort of well-made. Very cliché and repetitve stuff that we've all seen before, but now with a clearer Hollywood aura.

I think I Don't Want to Go Back Alone is a much better teenage gay drama, and I'm not saying it just because I'm Brazilian.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Derek » 27 June 2020, 22:43

poolerboy0077 wrote:There’s now Love, Victor because the original was too “problematic.”

Because the name 'Simon' is pan appropriation?
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 28 June 2020, 05:47

Eryx wrote:I think I Don't Want to Go Back Alone is a much better teenage gay drama, and I'm not saying it just because I'm Brazilian.

Have you seen that Brazilian movie about incestuous gay brothers growing up? :awesome:

Derek wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:There’s now Love, Victor because the original was too “problematic.”

Because the name 'Simon' is pan appropriation?

I think the critics said it was too white, wealthy and heteronormative so they made one with a broke tan beaner.

It’s also a series rather than a movie:



Apparently it was too risqué for the Disney Channel. I’m sure the white love interest being shorter than the Mexican was deliberate virtue signaling.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby John27 » 28 June 2020, 07:45

I got the movie from the library at some point. It was good enough that I watched the entire thing. But when I later read the book, I concluded the book was better. But then that seems to be generally the rule of thumb: the book is better than the movie.

One thing that I liked about the movie is that it's nice having a major release like this that features LGBT teens. I think my local Target was even advertising it on ads running on their TV displays, and the local library had a zillion copies. It's a sign of progress. Not too many years ago, this movie would probably at best have been small studio, with limited distribution (maybe even direct to DVD).

I've heard some positive things about Love, Victor. I'd be curious to see it. But that probably won't happen any time soon--if ever. I'm too cheap to pay for Hulu.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby ThatNomad » 28 June 2020, 13:29

I can assure you, if anything like Love, Simon ever showed up on the shelves of my local library here it would not be there for long. Book, or movie. Items on alternative religions, atheism, science, anything with LGBTQ, all tend to disappear, or come back badly damaged once checked out. It's not a very progressive place I live, and there is a very active current of suppression when it comes to things that are out of the "norm" as most of the citizens here see it.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Eryx » 28 June 2020, 14:31

poolerboy0077 wrote:Have you seen that Brazilian movie about incestuous gay brothers growing up? :awesome:
Oh yeah, From Beginning to End. The actors are super hot but the acting...
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby azureflame » 30 June 2020, 10:37

I really liked "Love, Simon" even though I was sure it was gonna be a disappointment like "Call me by your name". My only complaints are that Simon's friends are pretty awful in the movie and a second one that annoys me to no end about gay themed movies.

See, they took away all of Simon's sex drive. I know not everything is about sex but at age 17, it's one of the main things in a boy's mind. Book Simon got horny quite a few times thinking about Blue, they shared some dirty jokes here and there and the book ends with them sharing a moment in Simon's bed. It was cute, funny and appropriate for his age.

It wouldn't annoy me so much if they didn't do this to many gay characters in movies. It's lilke they can be gay but they are stripped away of their sexual desires. It kinda sucks because if it was straight romance (that awful "The fault in our stars" comes to mind) they wouldn't take away the character's sexual moments. Hell, one of the reasons I loathed "Call me by your name" is that the straight sex almost goes into hardcore porn while the gay sex scenes aren't even softcore porn level.

Also, last minor gripe, both Simon and Blue were kinda bland in the movie. Still, it's one of the cutest, most fun LGBT+ movies out there with some of the nicest scenes I've ever seen. Jennifer Garner's monologue never fails to bring tears to my eyes.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby azureflame » 30 June 2020, 11:51

Eryx wrote:I watched it and it was alright, but I didn't like the acting all that much and the story is quite tame. It's like Prayers for Bobby, but sort of well-made. Very cliché and repetitve stuff that we've all seen before, but now with a clearer Hollywood aura.

I think I Don't Want to Go Back Alone is a much better teenage gay drama, and I'm not saying it just because I'm Brazilian.


Holy fuck "I don't want to go back alone" ("The way he looks" is the english name I think) is good. Not exaggerating, it's one of my favorite movies, period. It's so damn cute and sweet and pure that it almost made me puke rainbows. What's best, it wasn't toned down for straight audiences and there isn't a shoehorned straight romance subplot anywhere. 10 out of 10, I recommend everyone watch it.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby vinnie the poof » 30 June 2020, 23:56

azureflame wrote:
Eryx wrote:I watched it and it was alright, but I didn't like the acting all that much and the story is quite tame. It's like Prayers for Bobby, but sort of well-made. Very cliché and repetitve stuff that we've all seen before, but now with a clearer Hollywood aura.

I think I Don't Want to Go Back Alone is a much better teenage gay drama, and I'm not saying it just because I'm Brazilian.


Holy fuck "I don't want to go back alone" ("The way he looks" is the english name I think) is good. Not exaggerating, it's one of my favorite movies, period. It's so damn cute and sweet and pure that it almost made me puke rainbows. What's best, it wasn't toned down for straight audiences and there isn't a shoehorned straight romance subplot anywhere. 10 out of 10, I recommend everyone watch it.


I wholeheartedly second that. Haven't actually seen Love, Simon, but I LOVE "The Way He Looks." I could watch that again and again it's adorable. That said, I think it's interesting that so many LGBTQ storylines are coming-of-age. I'm not really complaining because it's one of my favorite genres and I'm still technically coming of age, but... I am curious to see what other stories there are to tell.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 1 July 2020, 02:57

azureflame wrote:I really liked "Love, Simon" even though I was sure it was gonna be a disappointment like "Call me by your name". My only complaints are that Simon's friends are pretty awful in the movie and a second one that annoys me to no end about gay themed movies.

You mean to tell me you preferred Love, Simon over Call Me By Your Name?!

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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby azureflame » 1 July 2020, 06:19

poolerboy0077 wrote:
azureflame wrote:I really liked "Love, Simon" even though I was sure it was gonna be a disappointment like "Call me by your name". My only complaints are that Simon's friends are pretty awful in the movie and a second one that annoys me to no end about gay themed movies.

You mean to tell me you preferred Love, Simon over Call Me By Your Name?!

:squint:


I had way too many issues with "Call me by your name" to even enjoy it. It didn't seem I was watching LGBT+ characters, I was watching LGBT+ caricatures. Movie hit every trope I hate from these kinds of movies. The pretentiousness and elitism were off the charts. Dude playing Oliver looked way too old to be 24, he looked around 35 which made the relationship look even creepier. Some conversations were so forced I was half expecting the characters to look at the camera and wink. And that awful awful ending coming out of nowhere to force you to cry.

Dunno, I just watched a movie made for a straight audience based on a book about how a straight guy sees LGBT+ people. It's the only way I can explain how many clichés and tropes are included in the movie.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby PopTart » 1 July 2020, 09:21

Eryx wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:Have you seen that Brazilian movie about incestuous gay brothers growing up? :awesome:
Oh yeah, From Beginning to End. The actors are super hot but the acting...

One of the benefits of watching a movie with subtitles, because you don't know the language, is that you dont actually know how badly the dialogue is delivered.

I really enjoyed that film. There was definate chemistry between the "brothers"
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Eryx » 1 July 2020, 12:45

That's very true, which is why another Brazilian show on Netflix, 3%, actually did better abroad than here, and I actually preferred to watch it dubbed in English with subtitles than with the original audio, due to how shitty some dialogues were.

Some actors here have the awful habit to speak the words formally on TV soaps and shows, and it's just weird. Nobody talks like that, not even news anchors. So it sounds very robotic.
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