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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby PopTart » 1 July 2020, 15:00

Eryx wrote:That's very true, which is why another Brazilian show on Netflix, 3%, actually did better abroad than here, and I actually preferred to watch it dubbed in English with subtitles than with the original audio, due to how shitty some dialogues were.

Some actors here have the awful habit to speak the words formally on TV soaps and shows, and it's just weird. Nobody talks like that, not even news anchors. So it sounds very robotic.

I did consider watching 3% on netflix, but I was turned off by the dub :shake:

I struggle to watch dubbed anything, I prefer subbed with the original voice acting. Otherwise I spend all my time obsessing over the fact that it's so blatantly not the actors talking! :runaway: It's too distracting.

When you speak of formal delivery, do you mean it's robotic, or stuffy? Or do you mean, it just comes across fake?
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 1 July 2020, 17:33

azureflame wrote:
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azureflame wrote:I really liked "Love, Simon" even though I was sure it was gonna be a disappointment like "Call me by your name". My only complaints are that Simon's friends are pretty awful in the movie and a second one that annoys me to no end about gay themed movies.

You mean to tell me you preferred Love, Simon over Call Me By Your Name?!

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I had way too many issues with "Call me by your name" to even enjoy it. It didn't seem I was watching LGBT+ characters, I was watching LGBT+ caricatures. Movie hit every trope I hate from these kinds of movies. The pretentiousness and elitism were off the charts. Dude playing Oliver looked way too old to be 24, he looked around 35 which made the relationship look even creepier. Some conversations were so forced I was half expecting the characters to look at the camera and wink. And that awful awful ending coming out of nowhere to force you to cry.

Dunno, I just watched a movie made for a straight audience based on a book about how a straight guy sees LGBT+ people. It's the only way I can explain how many clichés and tropes are included in the movie.

Creepier? More like hot!

I suppose it wasn’t your movie because it annoyed you that the characters didn’t make an issue about their sexuality — a typical annoyance of most gays who want films that are overly dramatic in homophobia porn. It’s not like Love, Simon was particularly trailblazing. It’s every juvenile LGBT film on the market only with better production and cast. There isn’t even a lesson learned at the end by the protagonist over his shitty attitude toward fem gays. It’s the most bland heteronormative thing out there for an LGBT film.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Eryx » 1 July 2020, 19:59

PopTart wrote:I did consider watching 3% on netflix, but I was turned off by the dub :shake:

I struggle to watch dubbed anything, I prefer subbed with the original voice acting. Otherwise I spend all my time obsessing over the fact that it's so blatantly not the actors talking! :runaway: It's too distracting.

When you speak of formal delivery, do you mean it's robotic, or stuffy? Or do you mean, it just comes across fake?
I mean fake. It doesn't look like something you'd hear and the emotions the actors are trying to convey suffer on account of it. I think you should give 3% a shot with subtitles if you still care to, I loved the show!
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Choicespecs » 3 July 2020, 13:59

I loved the book. Simon in the book is a lot more fully developed and actual enjoyable character to get to know. In the movie he came across as a bit of a dick. The coming out part of the book is a lot better than the movie. I found the movie was "We don't care you were gay, we are upset you didn't tell us" which kinda missed the mark for me about the coming out process. Putting the blame onto Simon's actions rather than the situation. Which I felt took away from Simon's journey and self-discovery. In the book they deal with the matter a lot truer and more heart felt.

Also the ending was so bad. When they are on the Ferris wheel and everyone is cheering. It didn't happen in the book. And the movie made is so cringe. It kinda felt like straight people at the Zoo looking at the gay animals cheering. Which kinda reminiscent of how it feels to be in a gay club and all the straight girls going "AWWWWWW kisss" when youre trying to dance with someone.

Also haaated the principle or vice principle. Who ever it was. He was an annoying character.

I found the movie to be overly cringy and preachy. Preachy not about gay rights. But about how accepting straight people are and its gay peoples fault they feel uncomfortable. Which felt like the movie was a circle jerk for straight people watching it to feel like they are accepting of LGBT; "We aren't the problem, its the gays who have the problem for thinking we don't accept them".

I love teen comedy movies and everything but this was just a bad adaptation and representation.

I know they had to change a lot from the book because the film industry in America is heavily controlled. And I know the author was happy with the movie but she wasn't thrilled with how Simon was portrayed. So I don't blame the production of the movie, I blame the changes the producers made to get the movie cinema approved. As people have mentioned Simon's horniness was not really present in the film. However, it is lovely to hear that is has helped a lot of people. It was a nice movie and a good step forward but 4/10

And I agree 'The Way He looks' is arugably better..

Also 'Call Me by Your Name'. I know people have mentioned it. But I found the movie to be a lot more aesthetically pleasing. The cinematography and colour scheme in that movie is beautiful. And the romance between the two characters is lot more true to heart. Although not the best casting choices for some of the parts, which made some scenes very awkward. And in the book, the last few chapters had me bawling my eyes out. So I am hopeful of part 2 coming out I believe next year?

I also recommend watching "120 BPM" its a french film about the HIV Crisis in Paris during the 1990s. That movie is also amazing, the cast is fantastic, story is engaging and cinematography is magical.

For more of a comedy, "10 year plan" is actually quite funny. Low production value, but some of the jokes were quite good and the story is quite cute.

"boy, Erased" Was absolutely fantastic as well as "The Miseducation of Cameron Post" but they are more dramas. My only problem with "Boy, Erased" is that Troye Sivan was just wooden. I could also be biased. I used to love him on Youtube, but i've heard that since he's become more famous he's a bit of a dick. Especially since he said "I would be more successful if I was straight" which I don't think that's true. His music is basic pop. But I digress.

Sorry I didn't mean to shitpost movies. I love talking about film and I can't stop once I start.

With all these movies I did feel Simon could have been a lot better. Given the hype it was a massive let down. And cultural impact has not been very long lasting.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby GoldxnH » 10 July 2020, 05:46

I watched the movie before I read the book, and honestly I loved both just as equally. I plan on becoming an English teacher, so this is a book I would love to get approved to teach in my classroom.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Eryx » 10 July 2020, 13:12

I liked Troye's acting in Boy, Erased. But the movie was waaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow. It's something I'm glad I watched, but I'm equally glad if I never get to see it again.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Jryski » 14 July 2020, 18:33

I didn’t care much for Love, Simon. Can’t really connect with it.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 14 July 2020, 18:42

Jryski wrote:I didn’t care much for Love, Simon. Can’t really connect with it.

You didn’t picture yourself as a young twink getting disemboweled by Armie Hammer?
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Jryski » 14 July 2020, 18:50

poolerboy0077 wrote:
Jryski wrote:I didn’t care much for Love, Simon. Can’t really connect with it.

You didn’t picture yourself as a young twink getting disemboweled by Armie Hammer?

LOL that’s call me by your name and nope. Can’t relate with that one either.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 14 July 2020, 18:52

Jryski wrote:
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Jryski wrote:I didn’t care much for Love, Simon. Can’t really connect with it.

You didn’t picture yourself as a young twink getting disemboweled by Armie Hammer?

LOL that’s call me by your name and nope. Can’t relate with that one either.

Oh, whoops. I misread the title. I just had Timmy on the brain :3

And, ugh. Whyyyyy :cry:
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Jryski » 14 July 2020, 19:01

poolerboy0077 wrote:
Jryski wrote:
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Jryski wrote:I didn’t care much for Love, Simon. Can’t really connect with it.

You didn’t picture yourself as a young twink getting disemboweled by Armie Hammer?

LOL that’s call me by your name and nope. Can’t relate with that one either.

Oh, whoops. I misread the title. I just had Timmy on the brain :3

And, ugh. Whyyyyy :cry:

First of all, nobody in those movies look like me. Ppl like me don’t really exist in their world. Second, Chinese kids have very different upbringings compared to white kids, so I would never get to experience a lot of the situations they have. Third, who needs movies when I gots you? :3 Hentai da ne! xD
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 14 July 2020, 19:18

So you’re saying there are no woke asian parents that are cool with their bottom gay son getting booty-busted by a robust, burly top grad student? :0

But yes, hentai is indeed a lot more relatable. Personally I see myself embodied in a horny octopus.
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Jryski » 14 July 2020, 19:33

poolerboy0077 wrote:So you’re saying there are no woke asian parents that are cool with their bottom gay son getting booty-busted by a robust, burly top grad student? :0

But yes, hentai is indeed a lot more relatable. Personally I see myself embodied in a horny octopus.

Lol I’m sure no Chinese parent would be okay with that. xD
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Derek » 14 July 2020, 19:42

So what's the Chinese equivalent of a movie that glorifies sexual narcissism and fetishistically portrays inappropriate age gaps? Which Chinese hunk is most suited to bust some twink's back walls?
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Re: Love, Simon

Unread postby Jryski » 14 July 2020, 19:48

Derek wrote:So what's the Chinese equivalent of a movie that glorifies sexual narcissism and fetishistically portrays inappropriate age gaps? Which Chinese hunk is most suited to bust some twink's back walls?

Hmmmm :glasses: I guess Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon maybe? :nag:
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