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Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Botanical Boy » 22 October 2019, 12:07

With the release of the final trailer for Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker, die-hard fans and general film goers are already booking their tickets for the last chapter of the sequel trilogy.

  • Are you a SW fan?
  • Will you be seeing Rise of Skywalker?
  • Share your thoughts on what you've loved and/or hated about EPs VII to IX
  • What do you think Rey's origins are? And her connection to Palpatine?



I've been a life-long Star Wars fan and I have to admit that these last couple of films have been a bit of a let down. The last edition will need to answer lots of questions.

I won't lie, they have had some incredible moments - my favourite probably being Leia's use of the force in the vacuum of space.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Brenden » 22 October 2019, 15:39

Botanical Boy wrote:I won't lie, they have had some incredible moments - my favourite probably being Leia's use of the force in the vacuum of space.

Really? Lots of people, especially OG fans, hated that!

I also liked it.

But I also think she should have died and the new lady general lived.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby mxguy01 » 22 October 2019, 15:56

My reaction to that scene was "so corny". Plot line would have been far better to have killed her and be done with her character at this point.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Botanical Boy » 22 October 2019, 16:20

Brenden wrote:
Botanical Boy wrote:I won't lie, they have had some incredible moments - my favourite probably being Leia's use of the force in the vacuum of space.

Really? Lots of people, especially OG fans, hated that!

I also liked it.

But I also think she should have died and the new lady general lived.


mxguy01 wrote:My reaction to that scene was "so corny". Plot line would have been far better to have killed her and be done with her character at this point.


I am with you both although I think because Carrie had passed away - it was a very touching scene and I'm not sure it could've been handled differently. I am supremely disappointing I didn't get to see Jedi trained Leia in this series so anything showing her force powers was going to be a huge bonus for me.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 22 October 2019, 16:33

Am I the only one who thinks these new storylines feel a bit...empty? I’m not suggesting that the original Star Wars movies were in any way deep but I at least cared enough about the characters. Aside from Rogue One, I don’t really care for these.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Botanical Boy » 22 October 2019, 16:37

poolerboy0077 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks these new storylines feel a bit...empty? I’m not suggesting that the original Star Wars movies were in any way deep but I at least cared enough about the characters. Aside from Rogue One, I don’t really care for these.


I am with you - nothing really seems that joined up. Things are just happening for seemingly a grander reason that doesn't seem to exist.

After I saw TLJ I became much more forlorn for the Expanded Universe stories or "Legends" canon now, or whatever it's called with Luke, Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn, etc
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby IanSaidHi » 22 October 2019, 17:34

Botanical Boy wrote:[*] Are you a SW fan?
[*] Will you be seeing Rise of Skywalker?
[*] Share your thoughts on what you've loved and/or hated about EPs VII to IX
[*] What do you think Rey's origins are? And her connection to Palpatine?[/list]


I am a fan, and will be watching it. My one big criticism is the same as with a lot of writing nowadays. They set up story arcs with huge mysteries or cliffhangers or throw in something to elicit lots of fan theories - but don’t actually seem to plan ahead as to where they’re going to go with them, then end up trying to tie up everything at the end resulting in a big hasty unsatisfying mess (here’s looking at you Lost, Doctor Who the Steven Moffat era, final seasons of GoT...).

Snoke was a prime example of what the hell. Maybe his story will get some fleshing out in this final film, although I doubt it given how much they need to tie up.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 22 October 2019, 18:25

Botanical Boy wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks these new storylines feel a bit...empty? I’m not suggesting that the original Star Wars movies were in any way deep but I at least cared enough about the characters. Aside from Rogue One, I don’t really care for these.


I am with you - nothing really seems that joined up. Things are just happening for seemingly a grander reason that doesn't seem to exist.

After I saw TLJ I became much more forlorn for the Expanded Universe stories or "Legends" canon now, or whatever it's called with Luke, Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn, etc

They’re making the same mistake Marvel is making in universe expansion. They’re trying to fit too much in that they compromised on storytelling and character development.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Derek » 22 October 2019, 19:16

I feel personally blackmailed and abused by the monopoly Disney has over media and public discourse about media.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 22 October 2019, 20:29

That’s Jews for ya.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby mxguy01 » 22 October 2019, 20:30

poolerboy0077 wrote:That’s Jews for ya.


I imagine there would be quite an uprising if theaters closed on Christmas Day.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Bookmark » 22 October 2019, 21:20

Botanical Boy wrote:
  • Are you a SW fan?
  • Will you be seeing Rise of Skywalker?
  • Share your thoughts on what you've loved and/or hated about EPs VII to IX
  • What do you think Rey's origins are? And her connection to Palpatine?


Always been a fan, and I'll be going to see it.
I feel i'm losing track of what's going on though, as I've not been keeping up with all the latest sound bites. There's a lot of loose ends that need resolution.

To be honest, I actually preferred Rogue One to Episodes VII and VIII.

Perhaps Sidious got his wish and was able to transcend death, just like Qui-Gon Jinn?
I'm not sure the Sith have the ability to do that though. He's definitely there in some form in the trailer, which is cool. I love Ian McDiarmid :)
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Botanical Boy » 23 October 2019, 08:03

IanSaidHi wrote:
Botanical Boy wrote:[*] Are you a SW fan?
[*] Will you be seeing Rise of Skywalker?
[*] Share your thoughts on what you've loved and/or hated about EPs VII to IX
[*] What do you think Rey's origins are? And her connection to Palpatine?[/list]


I am a fan, and will be watching it. My one big criticism is the same as with a lot of writing nowadays. They set up story arcs with huge mysteries or cliffhangers or throw in something to elicit lots of fan theories - but don’t actually seem to plan ahead as to where they’re going to go with them, then end up trying to tie up everything at the end resulting in a big hasty unsatisfying mess (here’s looking at you Lost, Doctor Who the Steven Moffat era, final seasons of GoT...).

Snoke was a prime example of what the hell. Maybe his story will get some fleshing out in this final film, although I doubt it given how much they need to tie up.


It's interesting you've mentioned that as it became quite clear that whatever JJ had planned for EP VIII was pretty much brushed off the table by Rian Johnson which is why we haven't felt the continuity in story, with JJ now back to do damage control on the story. :lol:

I am anticipating that Snoke will be the biggest plot hole of them all unless he's some sort of failed clone of Palpatine's which would explain Rey's potential origins as one of many cloned apprentices and potentially his survival of the events of Episode VI

Say what you want about the prequels but at least Lucas had a stranglehold over the story progression. :shrug:

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Botanical Boy wrote:
  • Are you a SW fan?
  • Will you be seeing Rise of Skywalker?
  • Share your thoughts on what you've loved and/or hated about EPs VII to IX
  • What do you think Rey's origins are? And her connection to Palpatine?


Always been a fan, and I'll be going to see it.
I feel i'm losing track of what's going on though, as I've not been keeping up with all the latest sound bites. There's a lot of loose ends that need resolution.

To be honest, I actually preferred Rogue One to Episodes VII and VIII.

Perhaps Sidious got his wish and was able to transcend death, just like Qui-Gon Jinn?
I'm not sure the Sith have the ability to do that though. He's definitely there in some form in the trailer, which is cool. I love Ian McDiarmid :)


Like you, I also think that Rogue One somehow captured the feel of Star Wars much better than the recent Skywalker saga films.

I reckon he either just survived, the way Maul did his demise or alternative there is precedent in the now "Legends" canon for him to have cloned himself in the event his original-version were to come to harm.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Jzone » 24 October 2019, 05:48

  • Are you a SW fan?
    I used to be.
  • Will you be seeing Rise of Skywalker?
    Meh. Maybe once it's available online, or easily pirated. I'll watch it on a rainy day. When I have a cold and don't want to get out of bed.
  • Share your thoughts on what you've loved and/or hated about EPs VII to IX
    They're not good enough to love or hate. Just disappointing. The world of the story no longer makes any sense.
  • What do you think Rey's origins are? And her connection to Palpatine?
    Rey's character doesn't inspire me to care about her origin. Palpatine should have been retired a while ago, with a reveal of an even more sinister evil behind him.
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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker

Unread postby Marmaduke » 24 October 2019, 10:50

I’ve always found the Skywalker saga to be a bit empty to me. I get the Sci-Fi appeal, but all of the Skywalker characters have largely felt hollow and poorly acted and I could never really invest. I never liked Mark Hamill as Luke. I never liked Carrie Fisher as Leia, though she was better than Mark. The original trilogy was carried by the supporting cast.

The prequels, oddly, I preferred over any of the 3-part series’. I think I saw them at the right age and that nostalgia carries them for me. Though I think I preferred a lot of the casting and the stories felt more open to the side plots. I didn’t even mind Jar-Jar.

The newer films have gone back to the same casting mistakes as the originals, reserved actors playing roles quite straight and down the line and failing to entertain. Kylo Ren has got to be one of the emptiest characters written into a major franchise in decades and Adam Driver is just an awful casting choice. The whole thing rests on good versus evil and you just cannot give a fuck about that character either way.

The expanded universe films I’ve enjoyed much more. Rogue One was great, I think Solo was great too and both feel like they’re a solid basis for series’ of their own.

Primarily, I mostly excited to see The Mandalorian. I think a longer format drama could suit the style of story telling the franchise seems to favour a bit better than a film series where things feel rushed or compressed or skipped over.
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