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Unread postby WorlLower » 16 March 2021, 18:39

Hello everyone on this forum.
It's so exciting to be here, I've never been so happy to be surrounded by people like me. I'm talking about people of non-traditional sexual orientation. I'm from Russia so I say so. I've never been able to chat with people like me.
I will be very happy to meet you! I read a lot of topics and realized how interesting it is to read your messages. It's beautiful. Tell me what do you do in your life? What do you like to talk about!
What is the situation with gays in your countries? Maybe someone will be able to understand me and maybe I will get some support and your advice about how you live in your countries!
How do you get acquainted? How do you hide your relationship? Or are you so happy that you don't even try to hide?
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Unread postby Eos » 17 March 2021, 08:30

Hi !

Indeed this forum is very nice and interesting to read !

I do understand how hard it can be when living in such a country. I honestly don't know what I would if I was in Russia, I think I had be as much afraid of leaving this country as much of building a relationship here.

In my opinion, a love you have to hide is not the kind love worth having.
Even if I didn't live in russia, I wouldn't have liked to hide my love from my family or friends.

That's why I still think you should find a way to move from here if you think you can do that.
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Unread postby Raynethemagi » 17 March 2021, 09:39

I dunno if I can really comment on this. I live in America, and there's kind of a mixed opinion about how gays are treated here. From my personal experience, I'm treated like a person where I live. Yes, even in a conservative state, I feel like I am treated normally just like everybody else. But, that's just from my personal experience. At least in America you don't get killed if someone finds out you're gay. But, I would be remis if I didn't say that no one got killed here because they were gay. I guess, for Americans, it's more about how you perceive it.
Here's an example of the Universe trying to tell you that you need healing in an area of your life:

Someone who struggles with showing emotion. This person, in their lifetime, will constantly struggle with this, and that is because, they choose to ignore or disregard the fact that they have trouble showing emotion. Most people will ignore this issue, and will continue to fracture themselves. And this goes with pretty much any problem that happens in your life that is recurring. Don't pass up an opportunity to make you "whole" again.
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Unread postby Raynethemagi » 17 March 2021, 10:06

I want to clear something up. What I mean is, there's not a law or anything in America that if you're gay you'll be exterminated. But I'd be ignorant if I didn't say that someone didn't like someone because they were gay and didn't kill them.

Hopefully that makes better sense...???
Here's an example of the Universe trying to tell you that you need healing in an area of your life:

Someone who struggles with showing emotion. This person, in their lifetime, will constantly struggle with this, and that is because, they choose to ignore or disregard the fact that they have trouble showing emotion. Most people will ignore this issue, and will continue to fracture themselves. And this goes with pretty much any problem that happens in your life that is recurring. Don't pass up an opportunity to make you "whole" again.
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Re: Gay relationship in difficult countries

Unread postby Jryski » 17 March 2021, 15:42

Even though most people seem fine with it here in the United States, there’s still quite a few anti-gay people folks here. My family being some of em, do to their religious beliefs, I find it hard to balance myself and my relationship with them.
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Unread postby René » 17 March 2021, 16:12

I've been lucky (having been born in the Netherlands, lived in England and Scotland and spent a lot of time in the US). I've never had to hide in any way.

It's a tough situation. I don't know what I would do if I'd been born in Russia. Probably try to move away... though it could be argued that's not conducive to improving the situation for others. :shrug:
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Unread postby Eos » 17 March 2021, 21:07

René wrote:I've been lucky (having been born in the Netherlands, lived in England and Scotland and spent a lot of time in the US). I've never had to hide in any way.

It's a tough situation. I don't know what I would do if I'd been born in Russia. Probably try to move away... though it could be argued that's not conducive to improving the situation for others. :shrug:


In my opinion if you believe you should go away, then go away. One day there will be a person that might lead others toward a better future for gay people in there, and if such a person exist it will not want to go away.
If you're not the right person for this task then move on with your life and enjoy your time however you want.
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Re: Gay relationship in difficult countries

Unread postby WorlLower » 18 March 2021, 05:54

Hello again, everyone!
It is so nice to go to the site and see that you have so sincerely written to me what you think. I would be happy to answer everyone personally, but I'm afraid I couldn't because I'm in an Internet cafe and I wouldn't want anyone to notice that I'm sitting on this site.
Yes! Your advice is really what I should do, the main thing is to have the courage to do it.
ahhahaha I would even like to start keeping a diary of a gay man in the heartland of Russia ( just here everything is much much worse than for example in Moscow ) in large cities, some gay men slowly begin to open up and not be afraid of their feelings.
It's also a problem that in all my 25 years of life, I have only met one man with whom I had a relationship, I was so happy with him. But unfortunately, he drank alcohol and beat me constantly. So I stopped communicating with him.
Jryski I do not know how competent I am, but I am from an orphanage and I have never had parents, but it seems to me that if your parents love you, then they will definitely accept you. Maybe not immediately, but it will definitely happen over time!
Now I have to run to work.
Thank you all for your messages
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Unread postby WorlLower » 18 March 2021, 05:57

Ah, I forgot to write another thought of mine.
I don't know about you. But it is very important for me to build a relationship. What would then lead to the wedding. It is possible to take a child from an orphanage. But imagine-the government has issued a law in the constitution ( that is, the most important law of the country ) they banned gay marriage and banned taking children from gay orphanages.
Tell me what you think about it? What is your goal in life in this regard? Would you like to legitimize your relationship?
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Unread postby Eos » 18 March 2021, 08:11

Something I forgot to ask you, do you have a good diploma/work experience ?
If so you shouldn't be afraid of moving out if you can get a job, I think it might even help with your migration file.


For your question yes, there is a few things in life I can live without, but I would be ready to burn the world if anything prevented me from having children. And I definitely want to get married.
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Unread postby Jryski » 18 March 2021, 16:43

It gets complicated with Christianity. Some do accept their children eventually. My parents, however, are a different case. When I’m not around them, I’m free to be myself and it’s been fine so far. I can’t even fathom what it would be like in Russia.
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Re: Gay relationship in difficult countries

Unread postby Raynethemagi » 18 March 2021, 19:17

I've found that true happiness can only be found if a person searches for it. I was one of those people who hated being gay, literally hated myself for over 7 years. Finally I made a decision. I could learn to love myself, and to accept that this is just something you can't change. It took me a while, but not only have I made peace with my messed up past. I also have found that just because someone doesn't like the idea of a man having sex with another man doesn't make them a hateful person towards me. Just like I am free to believe that for me personally religion is a joke, and the Christian God is a coward. Just like I have an opinion about God, means that someone else should be able to believe in God and the Church.

But, I am completely and TOTALLY against physical acts of violence, name calling, cussing, parents who throw their gay child out of their house, I'm against any form of that kind of action, and those people should and will get what's coming to them....
Here's an example of the Universe trying to tell you that you need healing in an area of your life:

Someone who struggles with showing emotion. This person, in their lifetime, will constantly struggle with this, and that is because, they choose to ignore or disregard the fact that they have trouble showing emotion. Most people will ignore this issue, and will continue to fracture themselves. And this goes with pretty much any problem that happens in your life that is recurring. Don't pass up an opportunity to make you "whole" again.
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Re: Gay relationship in difficult countries

Unread postby WorlLower » 19 March 2021, 14:43

Stupid question. How can I meet someone on this forum?
I just can't find the button how can I communicate here in private messages)
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Re: Gay relationship in difficult countries

Unread postby Raynethemagi » 19 March 2021, 14:52

WorlLower wrote:Stupid question. How can I meet someone on this forum?
I just can't find the button how can I communicate here in private messages)


So, if you scroll all the way to the top of the website, you'll notice there are little buttons on the top right. One looks like 2 silhouettes of people, one looks like a cog, one looks like an envelope, etc.. Click on the envelope looking button.

Then, you'll go to a screen that has a bunch of buttons on it. There's an orange button that says "+ Compose Message." Click that button.

Then, in the first white box, you can click on the link "find a member" and you can look a member up that way. Or, if you have a member in mind, just type in their username.

The next box says Subject, so type in the subject of your message.

And the big white box is the body of your message. This is where you type your message to the other person.

After you're done typing your message to that person, go down to where there's 2 orange buttons and a brownish looking one in the middle. You're going to hit the Submit button, and that's how you do it. Easy as pie!
Here's an example of the Universe trying to tell you that you need healing in an area of your life:

Someone who struggles with showing emotion. This person, in their lifetime, will constantly struggle with this, and that is because, they choose to ignore or disregard the fact that they have trouble showing emotion. Most people will ignore this issue, and will continue to fracture themselves. And this goes with pretty much any problem that happens in your life that is recurring. Don't pass up an opportunity to make you "whole" again.
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Re: Gay relationship in difficult countries

Unread postby René » 19 March 2021, 15:00

On a laptop/desktop computer there's also a little speech bubble next to people's posts that you can click. And you can also message people from within their profiles ("Send private message").
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