2020 Presidential Election | General

Discuss the news, current events, politics, etc.

If the election were held today and you could vote in it, who would you vote for?

Poll ended at 3 November 2020, 10:58

Donald Trump (Republican)
1
5%
Joe Biden (Democratic)
15
68%
Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian)
1
5%
Howie Hawkins (Green)
2
9%
Brock Pierce (independent)
0
No votes
Kanye West (Birthday Party)
1
5%
other (e.g., write-in)
2
9%
 
Total votes : 22

Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Brenden » 25 November 2020, 19:24

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby PopTart » 25 November 2020, 20:29

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby betonhaus » 4 December 2020, 01:24

Georgia has agreed to a forensic audit in the face of clear evidence of the validity of the counting process being questionable at best - including GENUINE EVIDENCE in the form of CCTV video showing counters ushering reporters and republicans out then pulling ballots out of hidden suitcases

https://twitter.com/i/status/1334568511323189251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35f4pUIYOg

BOOM. It's starting.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Marmaduke » 4 December 2020, 07:58

betonhaus wrote:Georgia has agreed to a forensic audit in the face of clear evidence of the validity of the counting process being questionable at best - including GENUINE EVIDENCE in the form of CCTV video showing counters ushering reporters and republicans out then pulling ballots out of hidden suitcases

https://twitter.com/i/status/1334568511323189251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35f4pUIYOg

BOOM. It's starting.

This is upsetting to have to tell you, but I’m afraid - on safety grounds - in light of you capitalising “GENUINE EVIDENCE” and then citing Twitter, you have precluded yourself from leading an agnostic religious movement.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Derek » 4 December 2020, 08:17

betonhaus wrote:BOOM. It's starting.

Lol, yeah, Biden's sure in trouble now. The committee ended the hearings and the recount is about to be certified.

The president himself has taken note of the proceedings, seizing on video presented by lawyers from State Farm Arena on Election Night, where counting continued after election observers and media were asked to leave at around 10 p.m.

In that instance, Matt Mashburn, a Republican on the State Election Board, has said a board-appointed election monitor was present while that counting went on.


Marmaduke wrote:This is upsetting to have to tell you, but I’m afraid - on safety grounds - in light of you capitalising “GENUINE EVIDENCE” and then citing Twitter, you have precluded yourself from leading an agnostic religious movement.

Really? I think it's on-brand.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby betonhaus » 4 December 2020, 11:41

Marmaduke wrote:
betonhaus wrote:Georgia has agreed to a forensic audit in the face of clear evidence of the validity of the counting process being questionable at best - including GENUINE EVIDENCE in the form of CCTV video showing counters ushering reporters and republicans out then pulling ballots out of hidden suitcases

https://twitter.com/i/status/1334568511323189251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35f4pUIYOg

BOOM. It's starting.

This is upsetting to have to tell you, but I’m afraid - on safety grounds - in light of you capitalising “GENUINE EVIDENCE” and then citing Twitter, you have precluded yourself from leading an agnostic religious movement.

Its the only place I could find the relevant snippet of the hearing stream on short notice.

The YouTube video I linked to is the recording of the Georgia hearing, full length and unedited, where they review the evidence and witness testimony and agree its clear as day that even if they hesitate to call it fraud the vote counting was illegeminate and they need to do a forensic audit. Includes a hilariously sad attempted rebuttal by senator Parent which clearly sounded desperate as she grasped for straws.

Also the agnostic religion calls for objective truth, meaning paying closer attention to the actual events then someone's interpretation - especially an interpretation from mainstream media which has been caught in a ratings feedback loop that annihilates the ability to even acknowledge facts that paint the opposition in a good light.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby betonhaus » 4 December 2020, 12:48

Here's recently published articles from The Sun and Fox News about it. pay attention to who actually covers this or not

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13382561/ ... tes-fraud/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/brian- ... ture-audit
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Derek » 4 December 2020, 14:53

Do Brits have a drinking game for foreigners who unwittingly cite The Sun?
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Severelius » 4 December 2020, 15:01

betonhaus wrote:Here's recently published articles from The Sun and Fox News about it. pay attention to who actually covers this or not

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13382561/ ... tes-fraud/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/brian- ... ture-audit

There's a very good reason that it seems to be only the worst news network in the US and the 2nd worst news tabloid in the UK that are talking about it.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Marmaduke » 4 December 2020, 15:13

I feel like you are perhaps attributing the fact that The Sun is a distributed publication as evidence of it being a source of journalistically meritorious content. As an example of the tone and audience The Sun aims its content at, here is today’s top story;

CHOC HORROR

See? Now, if this was a source of some journalistic reputation, we would describe this as them steering the national conversation. And then we’d all kill ourselves, because a newspaper, reporting as a scandal, that an advent calendar included the phrase “Give hugs at Christmas” would be a deeply shameful affair.

The Sun does not care about the content of the story. The Sun cares only about the headline it can craft from the story, the image it can attach to the story and whether those two things combined will make you click and link and up their pages views so that they can sell ad space for more money.

Do you know who didn’t report the story? The BBC. Because they aren’t allowed to sell you anything and the story is dog shit. So there’s nothing in it for them. The Times reported on the recount, but summarised that it’s not going to change anything and didn’t mention Rudy Giuliani once. Because the man is a clown.

Don’t just hear a thing and then recount it as gospel. Whilst that certainly seems to be the way for a religious leader to conduct themselves, let’s try and aim for better than that moving forward. Let’s maybe have a religious leader that takes the time to study both sides of the story and form their own conclusion. You know?
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby EmilyEllison » 4 December 2020, 15:18

Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Derek » 4 December 2020, 15:52

EmilyEllison wrote:Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?

I'm not, but I don't think they were fraudulent.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Severelius » 4 December 2020, 17:39

EmilyEllison wrote:Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?

This depends.

This particular US election? Yes.
Elections in general? Mostly not.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby rogonandi » 4 December 2020, 19:16

EmilyEllison wrote:Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?

Yes, for the most part.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Magic J » 4 December 2020, 19:46

Severelius wrote:
EmilyEllison wrote:Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?

Elections in general? Mostly not.

Fancying having a go at reinstating the monarchy?
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Severelius » 4 December 2020, 20:24

Magic J wrote:
Severelius wrote:
EmilyEllison wrote:Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?

Elections in general? Mostly not.

Fancying having a go at reinstating the monarchy?

Not in the slightest.

I mostly vote Liberal Democrat. Every election is some degree of disappointing or infuriating.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby John27 » 4 December 2020, 21:31

EmilyEllison wrote:Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?


Absolutely not. Not given two bad choices for president. There was no result I'd have been happy with. I don't like Trump. But then, I don't like The Senator From MBNA, either. He'll realistically be "business as usual." He won't be what we need--we need a FDR, we don't need Republican Lite. He may set the stage for a horrible Republican to win in 2024. He may even set the stage for Trump, himself, to win again! If that happens, so much for the argument of him being a lesser evil.

And the same was true of down ballot races. This year's ballot was so horrible that I voted for the Green Party for president. I refused to vote in the governor race. And I did a write in on for the House race.

All empty gestures--it was a foregone conclusion that the Democrat in each race would win.

That said, if I were in a swing state, I'm not sure I'd have held my nose and voted for The Senator From MBNA. I'm frankly getting sick of being asked to vote the lesser of evils every election.

As far as the legitimacy of the results...I have no reason to question them. But then I don't care, since, as I say, there was no result I'd have been happy with.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby OutsideIn » 4 December 2020, 23:34

EmilyEllison wrote:Guys, are you really satisfied with the results of elections?

Nope. I usually vote for the candidate I hate the least. But I have yet to see a better option to form a government.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election | General

Unread postby Derek » 17 December 2020, 03:58

Holy crap, the comments. Biden to nominate Buttigieg as transport secretary. I would have gotten in a few rat emojis if it wasn't locked before I saw it, and I would have been unironically called a "Bernie bro" who's been brainwashed by rose twitter because I wasn't fawning over Pete getting his payment for collaborating with Biden in the primary.

Also, all the people getting downvoted for pointing out that Trump had an openly gay cabinet member. He doesn't count because he wasn't confirmed by the Senate and he wasn't in line for the succession? So it comes down to a technicality you could interpret either way, which really highlights how much it doesn't matter.
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