2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries | UPDATED POLL

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Which (D) candidates do you have a favorable opinion of at this point?

Kamala Harris
3
38%
Pete Buttigieg
5
63%
Marianne Williamson
1
13%
Andrew Yang
3
38%
Tulsi Gabbard
1
13%
Tim Ryan
0
No votes
Cory Booker
0
No votes
Jay Inslee
1
13%
Eric Swalwell
0
No votes
Kirsten Gillibrand
0
No votes
John Delaney
0
No votes
Bernie Sanders
4
50%
Joe Biden
1
13%
Julián Castro
1
13%
Amy Klobuchar
0
No votes
Bill de Blasio
1
13%
John Hickenlooper
0
No votes
Elizabeth Warren
3
38%
Beto O'Rourke
1
13%
Michael Bennet
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 25

Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby RJD » 25 April 2019, 01:13

poolerboy0077 wrote:


I hope he gets to be on stage again with the other candidates to push them hard.

Asked if he has a chance of winning, Mike Gravel said: “Oh God, no.” :lol: :heart:

I can afford a few family and friend nudge nudge donations to try to get him on a debate stage.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby René » 25 May 2019, 11:17

You know what? I'm liking the sound of this Andrew Yang. Check out his policies here.

The ones that appeal to me include:

  • Actually taxing companies like Amazon
  • Medicare for All
  • Universal Basic Income
  • Legalising marijuana
  • Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C., ending the disenfranchisement of 4 million people
  • Campaign finance reform
  • Carbon fee and dividend
  • Body cameras for all police officers
  • Anti-corruption measures
  • Automatic voter registration
  • Making Election Day a holiday
  • Investigating robo-calling companies and making it really easy to report them
  • Reducing mass incarceration
  • Net neutrality
  • Making filing your taxes simple and fun :P*

*It can be done. My UK tax returns are so simple and some of the questions so funny that I actually enjoy doing them. And I get almost 10 months after the end of the financial year to complete and pay them, so there's very little pressure.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby Derek » 25 May 2019, 19:39

Do you support universal basic income? Some leftists think it's a bandaid that won't do anything to reduce class disparity or enfranchise the working class beyond generating some liquidity that will be instantly sucked up by the market.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby SteveIsNotMe » 26 May 2019, 15:04

Who do you support at this point?
I've heard of Pete. Been following his progress. But still I'm concern about him. If he's gonna be US president, will he gonna be something like Macron or Trudeau?

What are the major issues you care about?

Foreign policy and trade. I guess now in SEA region, we kinda need US to counter-balance China influence. But in recent years US seem to loosing its ground here. Another thing: What happen in US could spark ripple throughout the world; especially trade.

Who do you think will win the Democratic primary? Republican?

Too early to tell. The democrat themselves are at odds with each other. This same issue also happen to the Republican (some Republican wants Trump out, some prefer him to stay).

Who do you think has the best chances of taking down Trump? In the (R) primary? In the general?

If through debate, i guess Pete has the charisma. He's quite intelligent. But he is lacking in political experience. Perhaps Bernie would be best. But Bernie is too liberal. If Bernie is goin to take down Trump, then we may see how truly polarized US politic is.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby René » 26 May 2019, 15:07

Derek wrote:Do you support universal basic income? Some leftists think it's a bandaid that won't do anything to reduce class disparity or enfranchise the working class beyond generating some liquidity that will be instantly sucked up by the market.

I do support it. I think it is the simplest possible way to ensure that everyone can have a decent standard of living.

I don't see how anyone can claim that giving homeless, unemployed and poorly paid people more money to pay for proper housing and healthy food etc. would not reduce the disparity between their living situation and that of people who are well off.

And a well-implemented UBI should definitely enfranchise the working class, e.g. by giving workers more leverage against abusive employers who can currently rely on people not to quit because then they couldn't pay their bills.

What I especially like is that it allows things to be funded for the poorest members of society while retaining appropriate economic incentives.
For example, I am not in favour of free university education. I think the cost of tuition should be at a level that is affordable on a UBI. Not everyone should go to university, and people shouldn't feel like there's no cost to providing it. But those who want to and think it's worth something to them should be able to without going into massive debt.
This is different from things like primary and secondary school, police, fire department and healthcare, which everyone depends upon and the demand for which is not flexible. (In those cases, the billing administration would just be a waste of resources.)

Then there's the fact that more and more things are definitely going to get automated and at some point, there's just not going to reliably be work for everyone all the time (one could argue we're already there), and that's something we should welcome, rather than making it a disaster for the people who are suddenly unemployable because a machine can do their job cheaper.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 11 June 2019, 04:30

This is pretty hilarious.

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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 23 June 2019, 22:42

Down goes Mayor Pete.

Blow: "Nowadays even Liam can release an album of his screechy vocals and it'll probably go #1..."
Ramzus: I can admit that I'm horny just about 24/7
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby Derek » 23 June 2019, 23:56

Now I know how women felt when they finally got their candidate and it was Hillary Clinton.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 24 June 2019, 01:39

Who are you rooting for?
Blow: "Nowadays even Liam can release an album of his screechy vocals and it'll probably go #1..."
Ramzus: I can admit that I'm horny just about 24/7
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby Victor_Laszlo » 24 June 2019, 01:56

You guys gonna watch the Democratic debates?
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby Derek » 24 June 2019, 03:56

poolerboy0077 wrote:Who are you rooting for?

Amy Klobuchar: the Last Dragon.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 24 June 2019, 04:12

So basically someone who has zero chance of winning. You’d have a better chance of selecting a winner at the Teen Choice Awards.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby Derek » 24 June 2019, 04:58

She's my pick for the Teen Choice Awards as well.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 27 June 2019, 13:36

No matter who gets picked they’ll mauled by Trump in the debates. They all seem overly stiff and mild-mannered.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby Brenden » 27 June 2019, 17:29

Updated the poll with all the candidates from the first debates.

I liked Inslee. Climate change is the most important issue facing our civilisation.
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby Iamjava » 29 June 2019, 04:35

Victor_Laszlo wrote:You guys gonna watch the Democratic debates?


for laughs. voting is for the niave who think it makes a difference. truth is, politicians will say whatever it takes to be elected, and do the opposite. many will vote for a party before they know anything about politics.

the truth is, if you want real reform you vote to start from scratch. there are simply too many laws (400k+ criminal alone) to fix with a bill.
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 29 June 2019, 08:05

Anyone catch Julian Castro say he supports trans-women’s rights to abortion? :lol:
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Re: 2020 US Presidential Election | Primaries

Unread postby SteveIsNotMe » 29 June 2019, 14:57

Iamjava wrote:
Victor_Laszlo wrote:You guys gonna watch the Democratic debates?


for laughs. voting is for the niave who think it makes a difference. truth is, politicians will say whatever it takes to be elected, and do the opposite. many will vote for a party before they know anything about politics..


LOL :lol: Damn right. Democratic debate should be featured in AFV.

I watched some part of the DNC 2019. I laughed a lot.
Can't help it, but these candidates were trying hard to speak Spanish. :lol:
Kamala roasted Biden to the max. :3
Yang rarely get to say anything :facepalm2:
Beto talked about his kid turned 11 this week. :gaping:
When asked about who' willing to give up their private insurance for Medicare, almost none raised up their hand. :lol:

If these candidates are goin to be like this before the 2020 election, we gonna see Trump for another four years, unless Frank Underwood is there.
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Unread postby Dextroque » 29 June 2019, 15:18

This is gonna be interesting. We had our gay candidate for presidency in Finland back in 2012 and he came second. Let's see how far Pete is gonna go. I'm rooting for him.

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Unread postby SteveIsNotMe » 29 June 2019, 15:24

Dextroque wrote:This is gonna be interesting. We had our gay candidate for presidency in Finland back in 2012 and he came second. Let's see how far Pete is gonna go. I'm rooting for him.

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Pete can't really handle his hometown issue at the moment. This issue will haunt his presidential candidacy and people will bring forward this issue on him.
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