Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 27 June 2013, 16:10

alehizzle wrote:
Brenden wrote:DOMA has been ruled unconstitutional. Five to four, with Kennedy the deciding vote.

:awesome:

Only Section 3, which prohibits same-sex couples from receiving federal benefits. The "states decide for themselves" thing is still law, as are whatever is actually in it.

Even many liberals are big fighters for states rights..
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Brenden » 27 June 2013, 16:48

And why shouldn't we be? States' rights allow (or ought to, if they were actually intact per the Constitution) for such things as Vermont creating its own single-payer health care system and Colorado and Washington legalising cannabis.

Centralisation of power is bad for the People. The 10th Amendment was meant to prevent it.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby alehizzle » 27 June 2013, 16:58

Brenden wrote:That's not really the bad part of DOMA in my opinion.

No, but saying that DOMA was ruled unconstitutional implies the whole thing was thrown out. Only a specific part of it was thrown out.

Ericb91 wrote:Even many liberals are big fighters for states rights..

I believe in states rights where it doesn't discriminate against people. This inherently allows states to legally discriminate against people. It would be one thing for states to be able to recognize out-of-state same sex marriages without performing same-sex marriages themselves, but to allow for states to have constitutional bans on same-sex marriage is something else entirely.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Brenden » 27 June 2013, 18:29

alehizzle wrote:
Brenden wrote:That's not really the bad part of DOMA in my opinion.

No, but saying that DOMA was ruled unconstitutional implies the whole thing was thrown out. Only a specific part of it was thrown out.

If you'll notice, I had posted that seconds after the news broke. SCOTUSblog had just said ruled unconstitutional at that point.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby alehizzle » 27 June 2013, 21:26

Eh.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 28 June 2013, 03:57

Brenden wrote:And why shouldn't we be? States' rights allow (or ought to, if they were actually intact per the Constitution) for such things as Vermont creating its own single-payer health care system and Colorado and Washington legalising cannabis.

Centralisation of power is bad for the People. The 10th Amendment was meant to prevent it.

I didn't say we shouldn't, I'm very supportive of states rights.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 28 June 2013, 23:48

June 28th - U.S. 9th Circuit Court Of Appeals: Gay Marriages May Resume In California.

The court lifted its stay on an injunction which ordered state officials to stop enforcing Proposition 8. With the court's action, counties can now begin issuing same-sex marriage licenses.

A spokesman for the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals had originally said it would takes the court at least 25 days to act after a Supreme Court ruling. Immediately afterward, Gov. Jerry Brown ordered his public health agency to advise the state's counties to "begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples in California as soon as the 9th Circuit confirms the stay is lifted."

Opponents of same-sex marriage have argued that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker's 2010 decision overturning Proposition 8 applied only to the two same-sex couples who challenged the ballot measure. But their enthusiasm for going to court to try to narrow the effect of the decision appeared to wane in the hours after the decision.


Official! :D
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Xan » 29 June 2013, 02:02

I love that the appeals court order was just a single sentence. Very powerful.

The pro prop 8 people are so angry it is hilarious. Reading their press release is great.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 1 July 2013, 18:06

July 1st - Scotland: Bid to prevent gay marriage doomed as 89 MSPs out of 129 back bill

There are now 89 MSPs who have stated their support for the bill to make the change published at Holyrood last week, including all Cabinet ministers, the leaders of each of the four parties and every Liberal Democrat MSP.

Only 11 MSPs have publicly stated their opposition, so even if all of the 29 MSPs who are so far publicly undeclared voted against it, the bill would still be backed by a majority of more than two to one.

Those who have declared their opposition to same-sex marriage tend to have personal faith-based reasons for holding socially conservative views, or represent constituencies where such views are widely held.


Gay marriage is definitely coming to Scotland next year! :D


U.S STATES THAT COULD GET GAY MARRIAGE THIS YEAR

Illinois: Gay marriage almost passed the Legislature this spring, but a Democratic state representative tearfully told his colleagues that he didn’t have the votes and would give them time to talk it over with constituents.
Advocates say the next try will probably come in late October, when lawmakers gather for a short session. They believe the Supreme Court rulings, particularly one extending federal benefits to gay spouses, could make the difference.
“It’s one thing to be against the marriage bill ideologically,” said Randy Hannig, director of public policy at the pro-gay-marriage group Equality Illinois. “It’s another thing to stand in the way of people receiving benefits.”


New Jersey: Gov. Chris Christie, a potential Republican presidential candidate for 2016, vetoed a gay-marriage bill last year. He said last week that he’d do it again, and that the state should “let the people decide.”
Democrats in the Legislature are considering whether to try to override the veto. The Legislature could also put gay marriage on the ballot this fall. A Rutgers University poll two weeks ago suggested it would pass easily.
There’s also a path through the courts. New Jersey has civil unions, but seven gay couples are arguing that those don’t comply with a 2006 state Supreme Court ruling that gay and straight couples should have equal rights. A hearing is expected in August.


Hawaii: Fear that the Aloha State would become the first to allow gay marriage led Republicans to write the Defense of Marriage Act, which was signed by President Bill Clinton and stood from 1996 until the Supreme Court struck it down last week. Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a Democrat, supports gay marriage, and bills to authorize it have been introduced in the state House and Senate. Hawaii has had civil unions since January 2012. Advocates for gay marriage are pushing in Hawaii federal court, too. But Marty Rouse, national field director for the Human Rights Campaign, said he wouldn’t be surprised to see lawmakers act first — “much sooner than later.”
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Catatonic » 6 July 2013, 22:48

Hopefully it won't be too much longer now... Kevin Rudd raises stakes on gay marriage.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 16 July 2013, 02:10

July 15th - House Of Lords Pass Marriage Bill, Gay Marriage To Become Law By The End Of The Week & First Same-Sex Marriages Expected Next Spring

The government's gay marriage Bill is expected to become law by the end of this week, after the legislation cleared the House of Lords on Monday afternoon.

Peers gave the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill its third reading without a formal vote after approving an amendment that would see ministers examine the pension arrangements for gay couples.

The legislation will now return to the Commons on Tuesday evening where it is expected to be rubber stamped by MPs and sent to the Queen for Royal Assent by Thursday at the latest.

The government expects the first gay weddings to be able to take place in Summer 2014 following the completion of implementation work.


Great news! :D

Scotland and Ireland are also expected to get marriage equality in the next two years, which only leaves N. Ireland but it's just a matter of time until they get on the gay bandwagon.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 17 July 2013, 16:02

July 17th - Equal marriage bill for England and Wales given Royal Assent and is now law

The Queen’s Royal Assent was granted to the bill on Wednesday at 15:06, turning it into the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, after clearing the final stage in Parliament yesterday, following two hours of debate, and the introduction of government amendments.

The bill officially became law once its Royal Assent was announced in both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The first same-sex marriages in England and Wales will take place in summer 2014.


Official! :awesome:
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby RGHRGH » 17 July 2013, 20:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEADFmDqero

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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 12 August 2013, 17:23

August 11th - Australia's Kevin Rudd Promises Gay Marriage Bill In First 100 Days

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has promised to prioritize gay marriage if re-elected.

Rudd made his pledge during a televised debate Saturday against Tony Abbott, Leader of the Opposition in the Australian House of Representatives and federal leader of the Liberal Party.

Rudd said that he supported marriage equality “as a mark of decency to same-sex couples across the country who wish the same loving, caring relationship that, for example, I have had with Therese, my wife now for the last 32 years, and for that to be formalized.”

“My commitment to you is that within the first 100 days of a re-elected government a bill would come forth to legalize marriage equality.”

The Labor leader promised a conscience vote on the issue for MPs in his party and he “appealed to Abbott to do the same because folk out there want this to happen.”
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

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September 7th - Australia votes to reject Kevin Rudd and his promise of overturning gay marriage ban

Australia’s Labor Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has lost the general election and with it dash the hopes of Australia introducing same-sex marriage.

Election officials said with about 65 per cent of the popular vote counted, opposition leader Tony Abbott’s Liberal-National Party coalition had won around 54 percent of the national vote and is projected to win at least 77 seats in the 150-seat lower house. Party officials claim that it might actually secure a 40 seat majority over all other parties.

Mr Rudd vowed to take the first steps towards legalising same-sex marriage in Austrialia if he won another term.

He said his decision to back marriage equality was made after “years of reflection in good Christian conscience.”


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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby fishman » 8 September 2013, 06:30

He was only saying that to try and scrounge a few more votes, he doesn't actually think that nor would he have changed his mind if he wasn't up shits creek.

Tony Abbott's sister is gay if that is of any value.

It is only a matter of time before it is legalized in aus anyway.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby Ericb91 » 10 September 2013, 17:31

September 10th - Governor Abercrombie calls a special session on same-sex marriage

Months of speculation are over, Governor Abercrombie called a special session on same-sex marriage Monday afternoon.

The Governor says it's the right thing to do and he believes he has the support needed in both the House and Senate to pass a bill that would make Hawai'i the 14th state in the nation to legalize same-sex marriage. Abercrombie says his decision is the natural progression in a discussion that began in this state 20 years ago.

"It's time for marriage equity to take place, and it's also time to recognize that it can take place without violating the religious principals of anybody in this state," Abercrombie said during his announcement at the State Capitol.

The special session will begin October 28, 2013 – just two months shy of the regular session which begins next January. If it passes, same-sex marriage licenses and ceremonies will be effective November 18, 2013.


fishman wrote:He was only saying that to try and scrounge a few more votes, he doesn't actually think that nor would he have changed his mind if he wasn't up shits creek.

Tony Abbott's sister is gay if that is of any value.

It is only a matter of time before it is legalized in aus anyway.

I don't agree with that, he seemed very passionate and was ready to defend us more than most of our own senate members who've turned around on the subject. I doubt that nut will allow a conscious vote on gay marriage if he leads a coalition into government, what I've read and seen of him, he seems like a hateful prick and him having is anti-gay views and having a gay sister just supports that.
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Re: Gay Marriage Legislation Progress In 2013

Unread postby fishman » 11 September 2013, 00:43

Ericb91 wrote:
September 10th - Governor Abercrombie calls a special session on same-sex marriage

Months of speculation are over, Governor Abercrombie called a special session on same-sex marriage Monday afternoon.

The Governor says it's the right thing to do and he believes he has the support needed in both the House and Senate to pass a bill that would make Hawai'i the 14th state in the nation to legalize same-sex marriage. Abercrombie says his decision is the natural progression in a discussion that began in this state 20 years ago.

"It's time for marriage equity to take place, and it's also time to recognize that it can take place without violating the religious principals of anybody in this state," Abercrombie said during his announcement at the State Capitol.

The special session will begin October 28, 2013 – just two months shy of the regular session which begins next January. If it passes, same-sex marriage licenses and ceremonies will be effective November 18, 2013.


fishman wrote:He was only saying that to try and scrounge a few more votes, he doesn't actually think that nor would he have changed his mind if he wasn't up shits creek.

Tony Abbott's sister is gay if that is of any value.

It is only a matter of time before it is legalized in aus anyway.

I don't agree with that, he seemed very passionate and was ready to defend us more than most of our own senate members who've turned around on the subject. I doubt that nut will allow a conscious vote on gay marriage if he leads a coalition into government, what I've read and seen of him, he seems like a hateful prick and him having is anti-gay views and having a gay sister just supports that.


eh, time will tell.
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