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Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 11 February 2015, 05:49

So Jon Stewart announced today that he is leaving The Daily Show after hosting it for over 15 years. I wanted to make a thread about this because I think it's a pretty big deal. The show wasn't merely a comedy show—it was truly brilliant satire. I've been watching it since 2005 and have grown to appreciate Stewart's talent. What makes me doubt that his replacement will succeed is that none of the other anchors I've seen over the years have brought the same wit and insight into the absurdities of the media and politics as he has.

Colbert's shtick annoyed me after a while. All the interviews with his guests were cut off in order to make a silly joke and there was no substance behind any of their conversations. This wasn't the case in The Daily Show. Watch his interviews with people like Andrew Napolitano or even the famous exchange he had with Jim Cramer from CNBC. They were substantive exchanges, often tougher than anything you could find on the news, but also sincere and uncontrived.

What I'm going to miss the most is his ability to beautifully synthesize information scattered around and lay it out in such a way that he walks you through the turd blossom garden of politics and media poop pedal by poop pedal. Did any of you see his recent take on Brian Williams? He rightfully called out the pundits trashing Williams, who did so under the guise of holding him accountable for a perceived loss of integrity on Williams' part, by exposing how they cheerled the public to war without ever scrutinizing that administration's assertions. These pundits react with indignation about possibly being lied to by Williams over a story about saving puppies in which the number of animals changed as he told it over the years. That's what I'll miss the most. There will now be a void where Stewart once sat calling everyone out on their fantastical bullshit and, in my opinion, it won't be done nearly as well.




Here are some of my favorite bits:

FOX News Academy (Part I)
FOX News Academy (Part II)

Gretchen Carlson Dumbs Down

Welfare Rancher (Part I)
Welfare Rancher (Part II)




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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Derek » 11 February 2015, 06:28

I don't think the Daily Show was brilliant satire. It's not like it's difficult to make fun of the news industry. I enjoyed watching Jon Stewart on occasion, but his show never made me actually think, and I never had any patience for people who treated it as source of knowledge or insight. I liked Colbert better because it was funnier.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 11 February 2015, 06:40

Derek wrote:It's not like it's difficult to make fun of the news industry.

Not that it's difficult, but people don't do it as well. Listen to the incoherent ramblings of, say, TYT about the mainstream media versus the step-by-step montages of absurdity at display on The Daily Show. Its brilliance is in taking what we all know to be true to begin with (after all, you have to be exposed to much of it in order to get many of the bits) and synthesize it so beautifully. That's what separates mere comedy with satire. Satire is much more intricate than playing a personality (e.g., Colbert) and exaggerating their demeanor and content night after night.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Derek » 11 February 2015, 06:49

The only time I caught glimpses of the mainstream media was when I watched Jon Stewart (and Colbert). I already knew it's all stupid and hypocritical and commercial without his help. Watching the Daily Show is kind of like logging onto GTF just to see you make fun of Chibi. There's no sport in it and it's pointless.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 11 February 2015, 06:59

Derek wrote:I already knew it's all stupid and hypocritical and commercial without his help.

"Eh, pundits...they all lie...why go into it in any depth? Fart jokes, satire -- it's all the same."

Part of me thinks you're being incredibly unfair in your quest to be that hipster who's above the fray.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Derek » 11 February 2015, 07:07

Sorry, Erick, but that's my opinion, and I can't help it if my opinion makes me better than you.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 11 February 2015, 07:18

poolerboy0077 wrote:in your quest to be that hipster who's above the fray.

Derek wrote:I can't help it if my opinion makes me better than you.

You must hate it when I'm right.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby RattleTheCages » 11 February 2015, 07:36

They're still retaining a lot of the writers though, right? I mean, I'm sure Stewart's plenty influential around there but I'm also pretty sure there are other politically-oriented comedians who can use that team well.

There's speculation of a female replacement. I don't care who it is, so long as they continue to highlight absurdity and hypocrisy wherever it be found IRL. All the better if they can bring Stewart's passion for it.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby René » 11 February 2015, 13:26

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is one of my favourite TV shows, and I hope that he'll get a longer show on a different network after he leaves, like John Oliver did. I'm enjoying Last Week Tonight with John Oliver on HBO tremendously. :)
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Brenden » 11 February 2015, 14:14

Or he should start his own online thing which he can do on his own time and terms.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby rxxli » 11 February 2015, 22:36

I only watched a few snippets of Jon Stewart. But honestly I much prefer John Oliver. Especially Last Week Tonight. It seems to be of a similar format format.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Brenden » 11 February 2015, 23:05

rxxli wrote:I only watched a few snippets of Jon Stewart. But honestly I much prefer John Oliver. Especially Last Week Tonight. It seems to be of a similar format format.

It's actually a very different format. Last Week Tonight is amazing because it 1) focuses on a theme every episode, pointing out a specific fault in society / politics / corporate behaviour, 2) incorporates viewer engagement (it's partly responsible for the massive increase in FCC comments regarding net neutrality among other things), and 3) actually has a cohesive online strategy for facilitating point 2. Also, by virtue of being on HBO it's far less restrained in everything it does and says.

It's a testament to what can be done with 30 commercial-free minutes and a host with full creative freedom, including free reign to criticise corporations (including parent and parent-related ones).

I feel like The Daily Show got itself stuck in a format of news-piece-interview which didn't allow for much wiggle-room in its ~21-minute airtime, and certainly no depth.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby homomorphism » 12 February 2015, 03:06

Derek wrote:The only time I caught glimpses of the mainstream media was when I watched Jon Stewart (and Colbert). I already knew it's all stupid and hypocritical and commercial without his help. Watching the Daily Show is kind of like logging onto GTF just to see you make fun of Chibi. There's no sport in it and it's pointless.

I find Colbert and The Daily Show as boring as anyone, but don't knock insulting Chibi. That never got old.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby acpro » 12 February 2015, 03:43

As someone who gets all their news from primary sources like Comedy Central and especially Jon Stewart on the Daily Show, I'm very saddened by this.

In all seriousness, I really hope Stewart continues doing what he loves doing in some format... that's preferably free and easily obtainable.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Derek » 12 February 2015, 04:53

homomorphism wrote:
Derek wrote:The only time I caught glimpses of the mainstream media was when I watched Jon Stewart (and Colbert). I already knew it's all stupid and hypocritical and commercial without his help. Watching the Daily Show is kind of like logging onto GTF just to see you make fun of Chibi. There's no sport in it and it's pointless.

I find Colbert and The Daily Show as boring as anyone, but don't knock insulting Chibi. That never got old.

That's exactly my point. It was entertaining but not sporting.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby 1day » 14 February 2015, 16:37

In a way I'm glad he is leaving for I believe he can and will go on to better things that hopefully will result in a bigger impact than what The Daily Show delivered.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Descuff » 14 February 2015, 17:59

Loved the Daily Show. Watched it all the time. Even stayed up to watch it in the past.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby Ebsy » 14 February 2015, 20:21

Derek wrote:I don't think the Daily Show was brilliant satire. It's not like it's difficult to make fun of the news industry. I enjoyed watching Jon Stewart on occasion, but his show never made me actually think, and I never had any patience for people who treated it as source of knowledge or insight. I liked Colbert better because it was funnier.

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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 19 February 2015, 04:44

Maybe Samantha Bee and Jason Jones should take over as a power couple.
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Re: Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show

Unread postby René » 19 February 2015, 11:21

poolerboy0077 wrote:Maybe Samantha Bee and Jason Jones should take over as a power couple.

That could work. I remember loving the time when they took over for one episode because Jon was sick.
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