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The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby betonhaus » 9 March 2021, 13:04

I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on the whole SuperStraight thing going on. From what I've seen it's being met with outright hostility and death threats, but the SuperStraight community itself has been really supportive - especially to SuperLesbians who come forward with experiences where they have been pressured and guilt tripped by trans woman who they really have no interest in.
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Eryx » 9 March 2021, 13:28

Never heard of it. From what you wrote, I'm assuming it's a way to differentiate between people who are attracted to cis and trans people, and people who are only attracted to cis people, correct? If I got that right, then my feeling is that the name's horrible. I'd change it to something else. Cissexual or something, IDK.

To be honest I don't understand why this even needs to be discussed. Nobody's ever going to tell me what I should or shouldn't be attracted to. I'm not open to letting other people educate me on the matter. It's my very own thing. If other people feel that I'm being prejudiced because of my private, personal affections, I hope they learn how to live with me ignoring them completely.

Trans people have my support in being able to live their true selves, be accepted within society, getting work and healthy connections. But my personal preference is men with penises, because I am a bottom and no, a strap-on or a finger won't cut it. And yes, I am attracted to the penis as well, it's not just men who look like men. That's not open for discussion. If I feel differently some day, it will be on my own accord, not because I've been lectured about how wrong I am to enjoy a real penis.
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby betonhaus » 9 March 2021, 13:50

Yeah the whole SuperStraight and SuperGay/SuperLesbian thing is basically people identifying as a person that only likes the biological version of the gender they are attracted to. I'm a top so I don't think it matters as much to me, but I haven't been with a trans male and only been with one woman (and just for the novelty, but I eat out better then give blow jobs). But I managed to get into the SuperStraight reddit before it went private and while I haven't tried for posting permissions I'm able to see a lot of what they are talking about and it's really them just drawing lines in the sand of what they are attracted to using sjw terminology. And they are being attacked a lot, a LOT of death threats going on in twitter for example.

Reminds me of the story in Vancouver where they shut down the only pure women's shelter in Vancouver because they refused to hire a trans woman, and despite loads of complaints the town funnelled the money into yet another trans center, which I don't see as fair. Like, women's shelters are supposed to be a men free safe space for them to recover without danger or triggers?
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Severelius » 9 March 2021, 14:34

Another avenue for people to traffic in transphobia while claiming it's totally not actually transphobia, from what I've seen of it.
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Brenden » 9 March 2021, 14:47

I am a SuperStraight Ally.

Bullying people to have sex with you despite their sexual orientation is disgusting and rapey.
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Derek » 9 March 2021, 15:11

I think a lot of what ails society can be summed up in how the ability to start a hashtag gets confused with a social movement. Remember last year when Pink News was reporting about a terrifying 4chan plot to sabotage Pride month? Like, you're consenting to being trolled.
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Marmaduke » 9 March 2021, 18:18

I’d never heard of it before. It certainly seems to be another way of people ignoring the fact that nobody is requiring them to have sex with anyone of any gender and taking an opportunity to clarify to a world that didn’t ask and doesn’t need to know that they aren’t interested in fucking an entire demographic of people that might not even want to fuck them anyway.

Why would anyone not support the absolutely pointless spouting of negativity? What with all the positives it’s bringing us, I really don’t see how anyone could feel like they were a member of a group being needlessly debased and discriminated against. Selfish. That’s what they are. With their personal decisions presumably leading everyone to assume I want to fuck them. How dare they.

They and their allies (yep, you too, Brenden) are being fucking dickish for the sake of it and not even having the good grace to do so behind an obvious veil of self-aware satirical tone.

Shame on everyone involved is, I think, the message we have to take away from this. Anything related to sex is shameful to someone somewhere, it’s probably all some sort of rape and we’re all worse off for not being devout catholics.

I’ll see anyone that cares to remedy their standing in this fiasco at a mass baptism, date to be arranged, PM me to secure your place in Marmaduke’s Holy Dunking. Only £49.99.
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Magic J » 9 March 2021, 18:23

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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Raynethemagi » 10 March 2021, 01:17

Well and see that's not right. It's one thing to have an opinion, but to get death threats? That's a little out of hand.

On a personal note, I've learned to not let certain things get to me. I can do this partially because the medicine I'm on makes me not care, but the other reason is because I've learned that not everyone is going to like you. And that doesn't just go for gays, lesbians, trans, etc... no this goes for everyone. Some people just aren't going to like you, period. But, I want to point out something. A person is allowed to have an opinion. I don't think it's right to judge a person just because their opinion is different from your own. Because to say that the other person shouldn't be allowed to think a certain way, means following that logic, you're not allowed to think differently from them either. I've learned that even family members, people who are supposed to be there to love you for who you are, will also have an opinion too. And, that's ok too. That was very hard for me to learn, but, I've made peace with that part of my life finally.

It only gets out of hand when people resort to name calling or does something ridiculously stupid like kill someone because they're a certain way. THAT is uncalled for! No one is calling them names for being a person of faith. No one is killing off Christians/Catholics because they disagree with them. So, for them to do that to us is just plain evil and ugly. Killing someone and calling another person names because they're different from you is how wars get started. It's just not smart, nor is it tasteful.

With that being said, I don't understand sometimes why LGBTQ people think that other people "hate" them. Like I've clearly outlined, if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it doesn't mean they hate you, they just have a difference of opinion. That's it! Hate is literally having nothing to do with someone. Hating someone is avoiding them like the plague or not getting within 80 ft. of them. However, I CAN see parents being "hateful" towards their gay child. Because there are some parents who kick them out of the house, or want nothing to do with them, which is also not right either. But, if someone just simply believes that a man should not lay with another man, and it doesn't go further than that, then they should be allowed to believe that way. As long as they are not committing acts of violence, and calling you names, bullying you, then I think it's perfectly ok that they have a difference of opinion.

I live in the state of Missouri. Missouri is what's considered part of the Bible belt (I'm not 100% sure what that means, but you can probably take a decent educated guess on what that means. Apparently there are more states that are part of this Bible belt as well.). And, Missouri is red as red can be. The only place in Missouri that is not red, would be near or in the city of St. Louis. In a matter of fact, there is a small place in Missouri called The Grove, which I guess is considered a popular hangout amongst young gays. I went down there about 5-6 times in my life, and it doesn't do anything for me. No one down there is looking for a relationship, all they want is to hookup with as many men as possible. And, like I've said before, the gay "scene" down here is creepy. You have to be careful who you talk to, who you go home with, etc... I, luckily, never had the problem of anyone coming up to me and flirting with me and such. I talked to a few quality people there, but those people were very few in number.

However, at my work, I feel like I'm definitely part of a family. Yes, a lot of the people who I work with are people of some sort of faith, ranging from Catholicism/Christianity to Southern Baptist. However, talking to these people are wonderful, cause I feel like I can talk to those people about a variety of subjects. Because, whenever I've hung with other gay men in Missouri, they talk about 1 of 3 things: 1.) They talk about who they fucked today, or who fucked them, or who they fucked or who fucked them last week. 2.) They complain about their life, and will talk shit about other people, etc... 3.) They have a variety of things to talk about. Most gay men I have met, in Missouri, talk about 1 or 2. I have yet to meet someone in this state that talks about #3. I'm not saying all gay men are exclusively 1 or 2, and not 3. I'm sure in other states the situation is different. I'm just telling you how gays are in my state.

And yes, these religious people I talk to at work, while I highly disagree with their frame of mind and perspective, I still get along with them. I have this one lady who tells me all the time that the end is coming soon and that if I haven't chosen Christ then I will experience the 2nd death, or go to a place where God is nowhere to be found. And, I get along with her wonderfully. Not once has she called me a faggot, not once has she wanted to kill me, she just simply believes everything in the Bible and in her Church. I love her to death, she's crazy, and I keep giving her the same answer of being an ex-Catholic, but she insists on talking to me about the Bible. So, out of respect for her beliefs, I let her talk, but when she asks me questions I give her straightforward answers. I do like her though because, she is pretty funny. And, as an older lady, she's beautiful too.

I guess it just depends on what you think...
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby GearFetTwinkRomance » 10 March 2021, 10:26

I have not come across these terms so far, so first I thought, it must be about either some weird and probably rather recent a conspiracy theory, or they mistook some termini from genetic deviancy and the X / Y Chromosomes. Well, that would be Hypermasculinity, (XYY , Polysomia Y ) some other aberrations are known by Klinefelt-Reifenstein-Albright- Syndrome (XXY) or Mosaik.
uhm. Well, it's probably different.

To have a different opinion, pretty well is okay. As long as one does not harass others, try to missionate them or, like some do, try to bash it into their head by various methods of brainwashing, brain giving or shortbraining and these that include brains spilled on or at some place.

Oh. Wikipedia says:
This page doesn't show any text and I have no right to create it.

Well, I don't feel any need to create it anyway, you honks. :argh:

Another site says this:
Super Straight (SS) is the "sexual orientation" for those who are heterosexual, but only like those who identify with their assigned gender at birth (cisgender). This "orientation" is most commonly used by cisgender people who believe trans people are their gender assigned at birth.


Okay, so this all is SS anew?
Well, they have the term 'Imperisexual' - very fitting - that they say was not that transphobic or it is non-problematic.
Okay, their flag reminds me to Reeses, for some reason.
Thoughts I have on my mind :
Doers that make me a super-gay?
Will I ever enjoy a Reeses product again? I mean, if they are the SS all over again?

For the heterosexual - I always thought, one can't be more heterosexual than being heterosexual, and it's a different level, if you talk about sexual orientation or sexual identity, that may involve gender issues, while orientation does not.
So assuming that Cis people as well as Trans people may have a sexual Orientation. Where Identity just would be way more than gender, sexual orientation, a love for mint chocolate or Amazigh music, and that you can be, whoever you are, or want to be, even if you feel the need to hop around the prairies in a Pink bunny costume. As long as you don't bother other bunnies. In case there are any.

There has been some irritation on who to be attracted to, going on for a while now. I very much think the same way, Eryx wrote. Who to be attracted to, is one's very own private thing to be the way it comes.
If people want to command over it, how you should be feeling in this, you might as well tell 'em to fuck off and get lost as long as they still can.
Similar thing: Nobody may command over your sexual Orientation. Even if it could change by whatever miraculous fumes or runa shifting recitings, it shall then be raised a matter again. Don't need it now.

I guess they probably went from the anti-racism story (people that want to command over one's type of person related attraction) over to the anti-transphobic story on (people that want to command about what gender you may be attracted to )

Im still thinking about the £ to Euro exchange course and why they took 50 Euro to strike me out from the Roman Catholic's member listing.
Damn. Marma's Dunking woul've been Euro 42,79. Those darn Roman Catholics!
Okay, I didn't want to jump out of the frying pan and info the fire anyway. :noes:

Was there a lot of German immigrants to Missoury at all?
The gay people at that small place sound very much alike most gay people I ever had a little chitchat with. It's like everyone is just concerned on where to find their next better hook.up. It's been like this in 25 years pretty well. I would wonder of when they send the ones with more interests.
Everyone seems to live in the UK or overseas. I should have clawed myself to a rock. To a cock? Maybe....
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Re: The SuperStraight situation

Unread postby Raynethemagi » 10 March 2021, 11:09

Was there a lot of German immigrants to Missoury at all?
The gay people at that small place sound very much alike most gay people I ever had a little chitchat with. It's like everyone is just concerned on where to find their next better hook.up. It's been like this in 25 years pretty well. I would wonder of when they send the ones with more interests.


And, I've said this once and I'll say it again, there's nothing wrong with gays who think this way. If a gay person wants to pursue the path of hooking up all the time, that is their choice. Obviously, on there current life path, hooking up provides a benefit for them otherwise they wouldn't do it.

I'm not judging them, it's just something I've observed is all. And while to some it might be interesting to listen to their recent one-nighter, I don't find that interesting. I find a multitude of things interesting to talk about. Even the one actual gay friend that I do have, and I will be his #1 supporter till the day I die, even he comes off as a very 1 dimensional person. If he's not complaining, he's talking about what guy he wants to shove his dick in. Every so often he might have something positive to say, but mostly it's complaining or sex talk.

So, being gay in Missouri is weird, but I just live it up. Yeah, I'll be honest, I'd love to have a boyfriend, but if I never get one or never have sex again, I'm perfectly ok with it. As long as I'm happy, I don't really need anything else.
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Someone who struggles with showing emotion. This person, in their lifetime, will constantly struggle with this, and that is because, they choose to ignore or disregard the fact that they have trouble showing emotion. Most people will ignore this issue, and will continue to fracture themselves. And this goes with pretty much any problem that happens in your life that is recurring. Don't pass up an opportunity to make you "whole" again.
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