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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Derek » 2 February 2021, 02:27

So, personally, I always thought they meant $1400 in addition to the $600 that went out in December. I was surprised to hear people believed otherwise. Obviously $2000 isn't an unreasonable ask, and they'd do it if they cared about the people they represent or winning elections, but hey, what do you expect.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Lord Dweebington » 2 February 2021, 21:27

Lord Dweebington wrote:
Derek wrote:I have a question for all of you. Democrats have been running on "$2000" checks since the election. Did you understand that to mean $2000 checks, or $1400 checks?

It depends how evil the Republicans feel.

Just yesterday Republican senators announced they felt $2000 meant $1000 and no state or local subsidies.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Derek » 4 February 2021, 01:32

Himbos are our most treasured national resource, they deserve our compassion and, if necessary, rehabilitation.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Derek » 4 February 2021, 18:14

https://www.mediaite.com/news/shock-pol ... -december/

The longer no one hears from him, the more people will forget they ever felt anything about him. Banning him from twitter is a more definitive end to his political career than impeaching him or defeating him in the presidential race.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby McTaggartfan » 8 February 2021, 13:54

Derek wrote:https://www.mediaite.com/news/shock-pol ... -december/

The longer no one hears from him, the more people will forget they ever felt anything about him. Banning him from twitter is a more definitive end to his political career than impeaching him or defeating him in the presidential race.


Personally, I don't care all that much how it's accomplished, I just thin he does need to be forgotten and his supports need to go back to whatever damp, dark cave from which they first emerged.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 9 February 2021, 17:04

Derek wrote:https://www.mediaite.com/news/shock-pol ... -december/

The longer no one hears from him, the more people will forget they ever felt anything about him. Banning him from twitter is a more definitive end to his political career than impeaching him or defeating him in the presidential race.

And as a result of this, our neighbor to the south is proposing this piece of legislation.

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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby betonhaus » 7 March 2021, 01:54

I've been following @bidenLs on twitter and it's been doing a pretty good job of compiling democrats who voted for Biden but felt cheated when the things they were promised never came to be. There was a reactionary account called @bidenWs that tried to counter it but it threw in the towel after two weeks. That's on top of a bunch of little weirdness things like Biden not having a lot of press conferences, and the ones he does have a strange moment like name-calling - or asking for questions only to cut off the feed immediately.

I'm still keeping an eye on the voter fraud allegations, as there were a lot of things that were pointed out that were clearly weird but the Democrats very strongly refused to look at. A lot of things where it would've made sense to humor the Republicans by doing the audits or letting the accusations go to court where everyone was under oath, but many of those things were blocked and stalled instead - The Texas Scotus was thrown out because they claimed texas had no right to file such accusations without ever looking at the claims itself or letting texas have the opportunity to bring forward it's evidence for review. And a lot of the smaller cases that finally went through after being delayed eventually did find the fraud claims had merit, but the verdict came far too late to be useful.

In the end, I'm confident that a lot of people who adamantly supported the Democrats with such passion and with such hostility against anyone who disagreed with them, will be waking up to the fact that the government moves so slowly that little has changed. Biden is still drone striking syria, the minimum wage has not increased, and the price of oil and gas is skyrocketing because Biden pissed off the UAE by tearing up agreements trump made with them.

From what I've seen democratic supporters have made everything them vs Trump as a singular person, while republican supporters are ambivalent about Trump but saw things in multiple Democratic politicians that severely concerned them. To the point that they elected Biden, a man that clearly has dementia and shows how little control the President actually has over things.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Derek » 7 March 2021, 02:58

betonhaus wrote:In the end, I'm confident that a lot of people who adamantly supported the Democrats with such passion and with such hostility against anyone who disagreed with them, will be waking up to the fact that the government moves so slowly that little has changed. Biden is still drone striking syria, the minimum wage has not increased, and the price of oil and gas is skyrocketing because Biden pissed off the UAE by tearing up agreements trump made with them.

None of the people who like Biden give a shit about any of those things.
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Unread postby betonhaus » 7 March 2021, 03:30

That's a null statement. Nobody liked Biden, they were just told to hate Trump and voting Biden was the way to get back at him. If you look at the viewer numbers for any YouTube stream starring Biden they are surprisingly low for a sitting president. The whole thing has become an emotional and divisive event and for little change.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Derek » 7 March 2021, 04:43

Let me rephrase. None of the people going out of their way to defend Biden give a shit about any of those things. There's not about to be some big backlash among democrats.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby betonhaus » 7 March 2021, 06:52

Hmm. I give it a year. I'm trying to keep up with what's going on by checking in with different social communities, and the impression I'm getting is that a lot of people are starting to get some voter's remorse while another group is getting fanatical and irrational in it's defense.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Brenden » 7 March 2021, 13:57

The price of oil is not "skyrocketing", you fuckwit. It's returning to pre-pandemic levels, because the pandemic is drawing to a close and normality is on the horizon.

Also, Shell announced it reached its own peak oil in 2019; with one of the largest oil producers admitting that, the world overall is now pretty close to, if not past, Peak Oil, which means one should only expect the price of oil to steadily increase from here on out.

It's called fucking supply and demand.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby betonhaus » 12 March 2021, 13:43

riiiight.

In other news I've been trying to keep up on everything going on and it doesn't seem to be settling down. The Democrat's 50+1 senate majority is revealing big disagreements between the progressives and the moderates, The entire staff of the Nevada Democratic party quit shortly after the election, and a lot of weirdness going on that doesn't seem to be stabilizing.

What are other people's projections for the next few years? I'm betting that the midterm election in two years will lean heavily republican while all the scary shit like the constant George Floyd riots cause support fatigue.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby MJM » 19 March 2021, 23:27

Not really understanding the topic of this topic. Politics of the U.S. In general ? I am fed up to the eyeballs with politicians of both parties. Neither work for the people. Republicans represent big business and adhere to a Keynesian theory of unfettered capitalism. The poor and disadvantaged who fall off the back don't matter to them. The Democrats ? Just watered down Republicans who represent the same system of capitalism as their rivals. I fully favor a removal of the present system to be replaced by Socialism that provides food, clothing and housing for all. Capitalism cannot guarantee you any of that or lifetime employment. Is there to be a certain class of people who are unworthy of those things ? If so, then keep things as they are and when those people get fed up and revolt don't be surprised.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby betonhaus » 20 March 2021, 04:40

The problem with communism is that you can be stuck with a job you hate, and there's little incentive to do a good job. Capitalism is a bit more self-correcting as terrible choices can become expensive and avoided, but communism always ends up putting all the power over even minute details in the control of a few individuals that are divorced from the issue. I don't see communism becoming viable until we have strong-AI and robotic workers running everything. Any communist society doesn't even begin to function until all of its members have largely the same morals and culture so they are self-governing, and any diversity is abhorred and forcefully rejected.

Also our prime minister may be an idiot but at least he can climb stairs without slight breezes knocking him over.
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Re: US Politics in General

Unread postby Derek » 20 March 2021, 05:00

betonhaus wrote:The problem with communism is that you can be stuck with a job you hate, and there's little incentive to do a good job.

You just described all of human history. "The problem with communism". Trading meaningless, dumb generalizations is the worst and most common form of political discussion.
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