Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby MattPSmith » 21 January 2020, 15:44

Sullivan wrote:
MattPSmith wrote:Im Australian

Of course you are.


I don't get it, do you not believe I'm australian or was that an insult based on my nationality?
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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 22 January 2020, 19:36

Derek wrote:It's super great how America doesn't have the same social benefits and economic safety nets as every other rich nation and then the president comes on stage and tells us we need another ten trillion to fight the immigrant caravan.

Why should my hard-earned money go to taking care of Consuela and Sharkesha who are just going to sit around all day doing nothing but living like royalty off the rest of us. Also, something something black on black crime something something. I won’t apologize for being white!

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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 27 January 2020, 21:31

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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby Brenden » 27 January 2020, 21:42

"By Ezra Klein"

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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby Derek » 28 January 2020, 00:10


I have to go do the jerk-off motion til I get carpal tunnel.
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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 28 January 2020, 04:14

Do it under my pants.

Okay so we all know you want a revolution or whatever because being an INFP means you’re an hysterical queen about everything now, but what about that was unreasonable?
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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby Derek » 28 January 2020, 04:44

The entire premise is that politics are the way they are and all the parties can do is conform to preexisting patterns to try to gain a majority of voters. It's blinkered and short-sighted in the fashion of 100% of liberals who can't conceive of a progressive alternative to their own politics. It wasn't that long ago that the South was a democratic stronghold, for reasons that have all but disappeared from the American consciousness. They can't imagine the voting blocs existing in any other configuration.

It also seems self-evidently wrong to suggest that democrats need the center when A: Sanders beats Trump in polls, B: the center cannot by definition exist closer to one party than the other, and C: winning over suburban moderates was Hillary's whole strategy and every single one of them was holding down a hard-on as they voted for Trump.
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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby John27 » 28 January 2020, 23:14

Derek wrote:winning over suburban moderates was Hillary's whole strategy and every single one of them was holding down a hard-on as they voted for Trump.


Not just Hillary's strategy. A lot of Democrats and Democratic strategists liked this idea in 2016--and still like it today. I think (but can't remember for sure) that I read articles saying that in Pennsylvania a belief that they could afford to lose working class voters because they'd pick up so many more moderates or something like that. (As I say, I don't remember for certain.) Trump won PA.

I heard one progressive commentator say that in an election when you have a case of a Democrat trying to Republican Lite Moderate, and you have a real Republican, then the Republican will win. (I'm sure there are exceptions. But I remember hearing this discussed after the 2018 election, when several Democratic senators who did the "I'll be moderate" lost their position--there were at least 3 I remember. Only one, Joe Manchin actually won.)
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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby mxguy01 » 1 February 2020, 05:13

The saga continues. Big names named...
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Re: Which of these two narratives do you think explains Trump's rise?

Unread postby TommyB60 » 25 February 2020, 11:55

Nice to read something with a heart and a brain. Bravo.
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