Why do most gays vote democrat?

GaySpacePirateKing wrote:

abmis wrote:Yep. Just what I’d expect from a bunch of “tolerant and open minded” left winged nut jobs:) Feelings matter too much for you guys

Hahahaha this is cute! I said you had some good ideas to soften the blow, but you accuse us of being intolerant and not open minded. Your too possessed with your centrist ideology that you can't put your feelings aside and resort to calling us nut jobs.

I appreciate that, but i would have ditto what you said to most of you.

poolerboy0077 wrote:

abmis wrote:Yeah, I'm generally not fun to argue with because most of you guys never had your views challenged.

Yeah, that’s the reason. When sucking your own dick for hours on end, be sure to occasionally catch a breath to circulate some air in that head of yours.

You know it's true deep down. Haha. Such loving words! Very tolerant of you.

I just had the sudden realization that he's a Jordan Peterson guy. Don't know how I didn't put it together before.

Yeah, I got that impression, too. Think he said something about improving yourself before trying to improve society or something? Can't remember the exact wording, but it seemed like classic JP.

Nah, classic JP is telling an entire generation of men to clean their rooms and then doing so many benzos you go into a coma.

The entire content of his political philosophy was that anyone who dared to criticize anything was disingenuously virtue-signalling to distract themselves from the misery of their own lives. You can't ask me not to rub the irony in their faces at every opportunity.

That's a pretty good answer. Makes my answer of "Von Mises' Epistemological problems of Economics" look kind of parochial in comparison.

Ah, I found it:



At 4:25

I urge you to consider your right to support a new political party - the Nutmeg Party, rather than looking forward to the next lie of certain politicians (since it is - check it out - astoundingly - further to the left on every issue than the democrats - 100% - so there'd be no cross vote in that sense as competing with it).

These are its 16 principles:

- no money
- no weapons
- no ownership (or its denial)
- no any harm to the environment (including chemical effects including forcibly on humans as their right and choice)
- no hurting animals
- no commercial technology (water to food to land... ? check out that - should be free/available everywhere - we'd need that much interactive free choice wherever we travel/decide to live/getting to know everyone in a more real sense than competing classes/educations).
- no tricks that trap
- no ruined races - that should be ruining races (overall, it's the inevitable ingredient of every pot in the race for nations to compete in all these ways however damaged goods as genders/insulting points as pure power taken to any and every extreme, they pretend not to afflict/treat people like, as sensitively caring anymore - mostly the media doesn't)
- no relevance beyond friendship! that one Hi! hi love hi hi hi! wow I'm glad I finally got to go somewhere like you - only these policies acknowledge how much more easily that goal would remain human without the weight of oppression bearing down if not glaring down at everyone of every kind of life all the time
- no moral speculation (it's not always as simple as been there, done that; there's always a next concern/question - why?)
- no orders of hurt lives
- no stress exploitation
- no selfish limits guarding teaching
- no private codified controls
- no media potential blathering for the enemy (come on; 6? media company ceo's like politicians now exercising personal abuses/outcomes into the stratosphere?)
- an end to a destroyed age (the one we live in - earth)

It's symbol is a fox and a mouse (coming out of an old, thrown away wine glass).

As above. Not an American, but I'm vaguely aware that mainstream US Republicanism made some kind of devil's bargain with evangelical Christians, who are very interested in regulating individual's private lives indeed.

I guess I'd hope that people didn't vote primarily based on their sexuality, though it's going to come into consideration. Who wants to vote for a party that is actively advocating against you?

But I would generally hope people would vote based more on policy and not on rhetoric.

If I was a US citizen, I'd be so bummed, because I see nothing in either of the parties worth actually voting for.

I'm grateful we have a smattering of alternatives here. Some have no chance of getting elected under the current electoral system (which I'm in two minds about) but we have options atleast. Illusory and ephemeral as they may be.

PopTart wrote:I guess I'd hope that people didn't vote primarily based on their sexuality, though it's going to come into consideration. Who wants to vote for a party that is actively advocating against you?

But I would generally hope people would vote based more on policy and not on rhetoric.

If I was a US citizen, I'd be so bummed, because I see nothing in either of the parties worth actually voting for.

I'm grateful we have a smattering of alternatives here. Some have no chance of getting elected under the current electoral system (which I'm in two minds about) but we have options atleast. Illusory and ephemeral as they may be.

Republicans are racist and homophobic. trump had 60 anti LGBTQ executive orders that Biden negated. Democrats are inclusive and republicans are exclusive. There is a great many reasons to vote democrat.

"If I was a US citizen, I'd be so bummed, because I see nothing in either of the parties worth actually voting for." this is one of the most ignorant comments I have seen in a long time.

katzgar wrote:"If I was a US citizen, I'd be so bummed, because I see nothing in either of the parties worth actually voting for." this is one of the most ignorant comments I have seen in a long time.

Not sure that's entirely fair. I know plenty of leftists who feel exactly that way and wish so-called 'third' parties had more chance in US elections and power in general.

While I agree with your reasons against the Republicans, I made a vow to never again vote for any Republican when they were super-cozy with something called the Oregon Citizens Alliance as they actually campaigned to DECREASE the rights of the LGBTQ community in the 80s and 90s. Yeah, Republicans are all about freedom -- that is, as long as guns are involved.

Hmmm. Wonder how Republicans would feel about Freedom to Marry Guns?

Anyway, even if Republicans make worthwhile arguments about economic or foreign policy issues, that doesn't mean I can support them since the party turns a consistently blind eye to the blatant homophobic state platforms and such.

And when we place the Democratic Party as a whole on the left-right spectrum, they are only left because the Rs have careened so violently to the right. Yes, the Ds are liberal: they support liberal economic theory (as do the Rs) but that doesn't mean they are necessarily progressive. And all it takes is one D who is staunchly against climate action and the whole House of Cards starts to teeter.

So, there are plenty of thinking people who find both parties uninspiring and their lock on US politics hampers important efforts to fight things like Covid, climate change, and infrastructure decay. And should I share some of the fundraising lies both parties engage in? Honestly, I believe both parties to be corrupt and have never, ever joined a political party in my life even though I am one of the most highly political people most people know (in my circle).

Personally I wish both parties would cleave off their radical wings, but then we'd have a new center party that would be have too much power because guess what, the majority of Americans are Centrists.