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Unread postby uncut7in » 5 July 2019, 14:53

When I was in a relationship where the sex had dried up I often felt horny and needed relief. We hadn't discussed having an open relationship, so in my mind I rationalised it that sex with another guy wasn't cheating if you paid for it.

I had to go to London for meetings around once a month, so I used the ads in gay magazines to find a suitable escort for after the meeting. I usually tried to find escorts who were slim, smooth, cute and bottom. Some advertised as masseurs, but you got only 5 minutes of massage before you got onto the sex. I fucked some nice lads, and in those days you could fuck an escort for £20.

I haven't been with an escort for many years, but I still like to get a nude sensual massage. If I'm lucky the masseur is up for oral or anal at the end.
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Unread postby Jryski » 6 July 2019, 01:53

If youre cute, I'd give u a massage :P haha
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Unread postby Willie » 17 September 2019, 03:24

uncut7in wrote:When I was in a relationship where the sex had dried up I often felt horny and needed relief. We hadn't discussed having an open relationship, so in my mind I rationalised it that sex with another guy wasn't cheating if you paid for it.

I had to go to London for meetings around once a month, so I used the ads in gay magazines to find a suitable escort for after the meeting. I usually tried to find escorts who were slim, smooth, cute and bottom. Some advertised as masseurs, but you got only 5 minutes of massage before you got onto the sex. I fucked some nice lads, and in those days you could fuck an escort for £20.

I haven't been with an escort for many years, but I still like to get a nude sensual massage. If I'm lucky the masseur is up for oral or anal at the end.


They used to be (relatively) easy to pick up in most cities, do 'em, pay 'em, and drop 'em off. Some of the best memories i still have for jerking off.
Some of them really nice kids thrown out by their families.
I'd love to go back to those days, but i don't know how to pick 'em up these days.
Prices have gone up from $10 to $50.
The only times I had trouble was when i had more than one together.
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Unread postby René » 17 September 2019, 11:40

uncut7in wrote:When I was in a relationship where the sex had dried up I often felt horny and needed relief. We hadn't discussed having an open relationship, so in my mind I rationalised it that sex with another guy wasn't cheating if you paid for it.

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Unread postby Yeauxleaux » 17 September 2019, 15:41

René wrote:
uncut7in wrote:When I was in a relationship where the sex had dried up I often felt horny and needed relief. We hadn't discussed having an open relationship, so in my mind I rationalised it that sex with another guy wasn't cheating if you paid for it.

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Unread postby mxguy01 » 18 September 2019, 01:34

Escort - fancy word for a prostitute
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Unread postby Willie » 18 September 2019, 01:42

No.
Prostitute is a pejorative word for an escort.
Thank Gawd for them!
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Unread postby mxguy01 » 18 September 2019, 18:29

You can label it what ever way you want to make yourself feel better about ti but it is still paying for sex = prostitution. Call it escort service or whatever but you are still paying for a prostitute.
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Unread postby Willie » 18 September 2019, 19:10

Ain't capitalism wonderful!
Divorce is where you REALLY pay for sex.
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Unread postby Derek » 18 September 2019, 19:14

OOoooh burn.
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 18 September 2019, 19:48

René wrote:
uncut7in wrote:When I was in a relationship where the sex had dried up I often felt horny and needed relief. We hadn't discussed having an open relationship, so in my mind I rationalised it that sex with another guy wasn't cheating if you paid for it.

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Unread postby mxguy01 » 19 September 2019, 16:03

Willie wrote:Ain't capitalism wonderful!
Divorce is where you REALLY pay for sex.


Dude, Divorce is where you pay for sex is so many ways that you never imagined. To me, from my perspective, I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry. Ok so we want the same rights, but do we really have to do the same dump fuck think as straights to enter into a legally binding contract forever just to fuck pussy... <- my train falls of the track on this subject. :)

Oh, and don't get me wrong. I'm not criticizing prostitution. I'm just saying pointing out that some want to label it otherwise because they are the one's with the delusion that it is something else.
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Unread postby René » 19 September 2019, 17:19

mxguy01 wrote:I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry. Ok so we want the same rights, but do we really have to do the same dump fuck think as straights to enter into a legally binding contract forever just to fuck pussy... <- my train falls of the track on this subject. :)

I'm not convinced it was ever on the track. Is this really the depth of your understanding of marriage and why people (want to) enter into it?
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Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 19 September 2019, 17:26

René wrote:
mxguy01 wrote:I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry. Ok so we want the same rights, but do we really have to do the same dump fuck think as straights to enter into a legally binding contract forever just to fuck pussy... <- my train falls of the track on this subject. :)

I'm not convinced it was ever on the track. Is this really the depth of your understanding of marriage and why people (want to) enter into it?

Ikr? What about for money?
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Unread postby mxguy01 » 19 September 2019, 17:49

René wrote:
mxguy01 wrote:I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry. Ok so we want the same rights, but do we really have to do the same dump fuck think as straights to enter into a legally binding contract forever just to fuck pussy... <- my train falls of the track on this subject. :)

I'm not convinced it was ever on the track. Is this really the depth of your understanding of marriage and why people (want to) enter into it?


Well since you have a better understanding of it, feel free to go forth.

You know I can say similar in return. You're young, inexperienced in life, don't fully understand. It's a slippery slope to assume your always right and every one else is always wrong on any subject including this one. Simply you don't have MY experiences and My views. So since you stated yours I'll state mine. IMO I feel that given it all, my dept of understand of marriage is way beyond yours. But then again I believe you have the right to your own viewpoints on the subject.

For clarification the "just to fuck pussy" part, that part was just me being irate on the topic. Think about that one for a bit and then perhaps you might understand what a relationship actually means to me.

I finally managed to get to a point where I really don't give a shit what others think about my marriage and all. It's how I feel about it that's important.
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Unread postby Derek » 19 September 2019, 18:25

mxguy01 wrote:Simply you don't have MY experiences and My views. So since you stated yours I'll state mine. IMO I feel that given it all, my dept of understand of marriage is way beyond yours. But then again I believe you have the right to your own viewpoints on the subject.

Weren't you consciously deceiving your wife about the truth of your sexuality for the entirety of your relationship?

You could argue that of the two of you, René is the only one who has any experience with marriage.
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Unread postby René » 19 September 2019, 18:27

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mxguy01 wrote:I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry. Ok so we want the same rights, but do we really have to do the same dump fuck think as straights to enter into a legally binding contract forever just to fuck pussy... <- my train falls of the track on this subject. :)

I'm not convinced it was ever on the track. Is this really the depth of your understanding of marriage and why people (want to) enter into it?


Well since you have a better understanding of it, feel free to go forth.

You know I can say similar in return. You're young, inexperienced in life, don't fully understand. It's a slippery slope to assume your always right and every one else is always wrong on any subject including this one. Simply you don't have MY experiences and My views. So since you stated yours I'll state mine. IMO I feel that given it all, my dept of understand of marriage is way beyond yours. But then again I believe you have the right to your own viewpoints on the subject.

For clarification the "just to fuck pussy" part, that part was just me being irate on the topic. Think about that one for a bit and then perhaps you might understand what a relationship actually means to me.

I finally managed to get to a point where I really don't give a shit what others think about my marriage and all. It's how I feel about it that's important.

*sigh* Let me try to unwrap this.

We both have some experience the other doesn't have. You know what a broken marriage between a gay man and a woman is like. I know what a happy marriage between two people who are actually physically capable of being attracted to each other is like. Both experiences are potentially valuable in coming to conclusions about marriage. Both are also potential sources of bias.

It is very human and unsurprising that your experience would make you feel like marriage is the dumbest idea ever while mine would leave me with a more positive impression of the institution.

What makes me shake my head is that you let your experience lead you to such a black-and-white conclusion as:

mxguy01 wrote:I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry.

This seems very narrow-minded.

Note that my positive experience of being married hasn't led me to think that everyone should get married, or that it's "fucked up" for someone to decide that marriage is not for them. I don't presume to make such judgments about other people.

I sympathise with your experience, truly I do, but I must remind you that not everyone shares it.
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Unread postby mxguy01 » 19 September 2019, 22:59

René wrote:
mxguy01 wrote:
René wrote:
mxguy01 wrote:I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry. Ok so we want the same rights, but do we really have to do the same dump fuck think as straights to enter into a legally binding contract forever just to fuck pussy... <- my train falls of the track on this subject. :)

I'm not convinced it was ever on the track. Is this really the depth of your understanding of marriage and why people (want to) enter into it?


Well since you have a better understanding of it, feel free to go forth.

You know I can say similar in return. You're young, inexperienced in life, don't fully understand. It's a slippery slope to assume your always right and every one else is always wrong on any subject including this one. Simply you don't have MY experiences and My views. So since you stated yours I'll state mine. IMO I feel that given it all, my dept of understand of marriage is way beyond yours. But then again I believe you have the right to your own viewpoints on the subject.

For clarification the "just to fuck pussy" part, that part was just me being irate on the topic. Think about that one for a bit and then perhaps you might understand what a relationship actually means to me.

I finally managed to get to a point where I really don't give a shit what others think about my marriage and all. It's how I feel about it that's important.

*sigh* Let me try to unwrap this.

We both have some experience the other doesn't have. You know what a broken marriage between a gay man and a woman is like. I know what a happy marriage between two people who are actually physically capable of being attracted to each other is like. Both experiences are potentially valuable in coming to conclusions about marriage. Both are also potential sources of bias.

It is very human and unsurprising that your experience would make you feel like marriage is the dumbest idea ever while mine would leave me with a more positive impression of the institution.

What makes me shake my head is that you let your experience lead you to such a black-and-white conclusion as:

mxguy01 wrote:I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry.

This seems very narrow-minded.

Note that my positive experience of being married hasn't led me to think that everyone should get married, or that it's "fucked up" for someone to decide that marriage is not for them. I don't presume to make such judgments about other people.

I sympathise with your experience, truly I do, but I must remind you that not everyone shares it.


First a few points of distinction/clarification. 1) I'm referencing the "marriage certificate", the legality issues specifically. Now the rest of the deal I highly value, quite possibly way more than you'll ever understand for various reasons. Now while in the event such things need to be handled such as the financial split, having a legal system so designed behind that little civil union to make it the most screwed up situation - unless the two parties have the sense to avoid that. Honestly I begged (almost, rally) for us to just use a mediator which was highly recommended in the area. I really would have agreed to just about anything that way. 2) But that is what "Marriage" has become. Hell if I want to give rights to my partner all I have to do is the proper legal paperwork. Honestly that should be the way even in a marriage, I should get to choose who I deem. Moving on that leaves?

Honestly I think we are referencing two different things. So with the above, everything you think "marriage" is everything I think "partner". My ex was my "partner" in every way. Yes, I never told her. Then again who did I tell - not a single sole that ever walked the face of the earth.

To the point of not making judgement. Well that did not appear to be the case. You specifically point out me. I specifically referenced a group, call gay, lgbt, etc. Huge difference. So yes, that gave every appearance of casting judgement IMO. Judgement of issues is all cool. But you really can't absolutely judge others without exactly their experience.

actually physically capable of being attracted to each other
<- I'd actually call this rather narrow minded. As others would agree, "gay" is but a small part of the total me. I'd say this is your inability to see how two people can come to love each other no matter the differences. Me and my wife were strong together; when we divided and conquered we were awesome. There's so much more to live than what ends up being the occasional 30 minutes - mostly because you become good at it and you have other things to do in live as well. So yes, IMO that's rather narrow minded to assume two people can't love each other given the circumstances.

So we simply have different opinions on the subject.
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Unread postby René » 20 September 2019, 12:37

mxguy01 wrote:First a few points of distinction/clarification. 1) I'm referencing the "marriage certificate", the legality issues specifically. Now the rest of the deal I highly value, quite possibly way more than you'll ever understand for various reasons. Now while in the event such things need to be handled such as the financial split, having a legal system so designed behind that little civil union to make it the most screwed up situation - unless the two parties have the sense to avoid that. Honestly I begged (almost, rally) for us to just use a mediator which was highly recommended in the area. I really would have agreed to just about anything that way. 2) But that is what "Marriage" has become. Hell if I want to give rights to my partner all I have to do is the proper legal paperwork. Honestly that should be the way even in a marriage, I should get to choose who I deem. Moving on that leaves?

Honestly I think we are referencing two different things. So with the above, everything you think "marriage" is everything I think "partner".

Isn't the difficulty in ending a marriage...kind of the point? It is a much more serious commitment than just cohabiting or signing a contract.

Note it's not uncommon for married couples who have experienced relationship issues to credit the difficulty in ending a marriage with ultimately keeping them together and getting them to fix their relationship rather than just giving up on it.

Obviously if you're "100% gay" and nonetheless marry someone of the opposite sex, that's never going to be your outcome, and it's a pretty disastrous mistake to make such a commitment.

Again, I appreciate the very difficult circumstances in which it happened in your case, and it's very understandable that such an experience would put you off marriage personally. But is there no room for a little empathy for people who are not making the mistake you made, for whom this commitment could actually make more sense than it did for you and your wife?

mxguy01 wrote:My ex was my "partner" in every way. Yes, I never told her. Then again who did I tell - not a single sole that ever walked the face of the earth.

Seems like a pretty big secret to keep from someone who is "your partner in every way", but okay :P

mxguy01 wrote:To the point of not making judgement. Well that did not appear to be the case. You specifically point out me. I specifically referenced a group, call gay, lgbt, etc. Huge difference. So yes, that gave every appearance of casting judgement IMO.

If someone said "Homosexuals are fucked-up people.", would you ignore it since you weren't mentioned by name and so there is no judgment involved?
Does that make any sense?

Anyway, I sincerely asked if it was really the depth of your understanding. And from what I gather, the answer to that is no (sort of)? I would have thought it was pretty clear that the judgment was conditional on the answer being yes. It is also not really comparable to the kind of judgment I said I didn't make:

René wrote:Note that my positive experience of being married hasn't led me to think that everyone should get married, or that it's "fucked up" for someone to decide that marriage is not for them. I don't presume to make such judgments about other people.


mxguy01 wrote:Judgement of issues is all cool. But you really can't absolutely judge others without exactly their experience.

Aptly put. You might want to bear this in mind the next time you feel like saying something like "I find it totally fucked up that gays want to marry."

(Which, come to think of it, seems like a little bit more of a judgement than the sincere question I asked you. As well as being something you would expect to hear from a right-wing religious bigot... did you honestly expect this to go down well on a gay forum?)

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<- I'd actually call this rather narrow minded. As others would agree, "gay" is but a small part of the total me. I'd say this is your inability to see how two people can come to love each other no matter the differences. Me and my wife were strong together; when we divided and conquered we were awesome. There's so much more to live than what ends up being the occasional 30 minutes - mostly because you become good at it and you have other things to do in live as well. So yes, IMO that's rather narrow minded to assume two people can't love each other given the circumstances.

Were you physically and romantically attracted to your wife? I recalled you'd said you were "100% gay", so I kind of assumed the answer to that was no. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And please point out where I assumed two people can't love each other under those circumstances?
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