Male escort for my first time?

**Twilight66** · by **Twilight66** » 17 November 2020, 17:36

I am an older guy that has never had a gay experience. Don't like trying to pick up guys in bars (even if they were open), I don't think young guys will be interested anyway because of my age. I have been communicating with a young male escort whose pictures tells me that he's my physical type, and we've had interesting texts. What do you think about hiring him for my first time? I suggested we meet first for a drink to make sure we're compatible.

**PopTart** · by **PopTart** » 17 November 2020, 20:26

I don't see anything objectionable in doing so, aslong as you protect yourself, both in terms of sexual health and also, in terms of making sure this guy is legit.

You'll be surprised as there are some people out there who do enjoy sex with older and much older men, don't discount that possibility, but if you are more comfortable having your first time with a guy, be transactional, you have the funds and it's something you want, then by all means, I see no problem with it

Just dont let yourself be taken advantage of in any fashion.

**Jasper1** · by **Jasper1** » 18 November 2020, 22:47

Agree with PopTart, the most important thing here is safety. Let’s face it, you could use any hook up site and you will for sure get interest but it’s not necessarily going to be any safer if you don’t filter out the nutters and take precautions.

**Marmaduke** · by **Marmaduke** » 19 November 2020, 22:06

I’d skip the drink, the reasons being two-fold:

1. It’s a slippery slope emotionally, if you blur the lines between a transaction and a connection, you’re lining yourself up to start developing feelings that aren’t going to be reciprocated.

2. It’s financially stupid. It’s a business transaction, you’re hiring a prostitute. Taking them out drinking first is like taking a rental car for an oil service.

If these two insights seem cold and emotionally distant, the reality of prostitution may prove a disappointment you’d be happier avoiding altogether.

**Jzone** · by **Jzone** » 20 November 2020, 00:33

Go for it. Why not? Just don't expect romance to develop with a professional. If you have texted back and forth, he is at least interested in your business. Follow the safety advice above.

I disagree with Marmaduke. Escorts are entertainers. Let him charm you and enjoy the act, just don't fall for it (or him). If all goes well and you can afford it, maybe you'll see him again.

**John27** · by **John27** » 20 November 2020, 03:01

Marmaduke wrote:It’s a business transaction, you’re hiring a prostitute. Taking them out drinking first is like taking a rental car for an oil service.

I liked this example!

As I think of it, a prostitute should perhaps pay for the drinks, and consider it a "business expense."

**PopTart** · by **PopTart** » 20 November 2020, 14:18

I would also say that meeting socially before hand, atleast once, is a good way to vet the prospective gentleman.

It doesn't have to be a meal or sit down drinks or what have, although I do find Jzones take to be in keeping with the idea, that things should be fun!

Your paying to have a good time, it doesnt have to be like buying a car (don't kick him in the knees to make sure they work properly, for example)

If he offers the service of flirtation and being charmed and you can recognise that is part of the service and not leading to more, then why not?

Don't expect him to pay for it though.

**edoardo** · by **edoardo** » 8 December 2020, 21:09

I thing that isnt good idea. Try to find somebodi who do that for enjoy, not for many.

**Scobri** · by **Scobri** » 25 December 2020, 11:21

**Scobri** · by **Scobri** » 25 December 2020, 11:42

edoardo wrote:I thing that isnt good idea. Try to find somebodi who do that for enjoy, not for many.

You mean "money" not "many". But yes, I agree with you 100%.

**Jzone** · by **Jzone** » 26 December 2020, 06:28

Scobri wrote:Psychologically & spiritually healthy people do not have sex for money, or pay for it.

That is a blanket statement that I don't believe can be supported by facts. Discrimination against sex workers in countries where such work is illegal may be more the source of many of their problems. Sex work is legal and regulated in scores of countries around the world. I expect well-paid sex workers in societies with a high level of acceptance for them have no more psychological or spiritual health issues than other professions.

Your bible reference is way off. The passage about prostitutes and bread is from Proverbs, written 700 years before Jesus supposedly lived. It has been interpreted many ways. New Testament accounts show Jesus as quite forgiving of prostitutes.

I have never paid for sex (or charged for it) and I don't expect to ever. I don't claim any moral high ground on that account. There are many reasons why someone could be on either side of that transaction.

**Scobri** · by **Scobri** » 28 December 2020, 07:48

**Jasper1** · by **Jasper1** » 28 December 2020, 10:17

Scobri wrote:
Jzone wrote:
Scobri wrote:Psychologically & spiritually healthy people do not have sex for money, or pay for it.

Sex work is legal and regulated in scores of countries around the world.

You know what else is legal in many countries? Owning women as slaves, selling small children into "marriage", forbidding women from getting an education or keeping their own salary, beheadings in public squares & stoning are all LEGAL in many countries.

It was also legal to exterminate Jews. Not only was it legal, but it was carried out by the state.

So if you want to site what's lawful as some sort of gold standard, that's laughable and shows that you're grasping for straws.

There's laws of man, and then there are laws of the Universe, of Creation. The two function on completely different levels of reality – one the illusionary, the other the true reality.

It's also completely irrelevant in which part of the Bible I quoted, or when it was written.

And yes, the psychological issues of those who enter prostitution are well-documented. A very large percentage of "sex workers" were sexually abused as children, abandoned, or experienced some other trauma such as poverty, drug addiction and/or homelessness. And a few are probably just narcissistic attention whores.

You can attempt to rationalize to your heart's content, but it doesn't change anything, especially not facts.

My original points stand, unaltered.

This is why I rarely post on public forums. Too many people at such a low level that it's really not worth it to engage. I did this one time for the benefit of the person who asked the question, not to debate, which I don't do. There is absolutely nothing in that. People have to grow and evolve by their own accord. It's not my bother. But hey if you enjoy being at a low level, then you do you.

So, if someone does not agree with you, it’s time to throw your toys out of the pram?

Honestly, grow up!

**Marmaduke** · by **Marmaduke** » 28 December 2020, 10:52

Scobri wrote:
Jzone wrote:
Scobri wrote:Psychologically & spiritually healthy people do not have sex for money, or pay for it.

Sex work is legal and regulated in scores of countries around the world.

You know what else is legal in many countries? Owning women as slaves, selling small children into "marriage", forbidding women from getting an education or keeping their own salary, beheadings in public squares & stoning are all LEGAL in many countries.

It was also legal to exterminate Jews. Not only was it legal, but it was carried out by the state.

So if you want to site what's lawful as some sort of gold standard, that's laughable and shows that you're grasping for straws.

There's laws of man, and then there are laws of the Universe, of Creation. The two function on completely different levels of reality – one the illusionary, the other the true reality.

It's also completely irrelevant in which part of the Bible I quoted, or when it was written.

And yes, the psychological issues of those who enter prostitution are well-documented. A very large percentage of "sex workers" were sexually abused as children, abandoned, or experienced some other trauma such as poverty, drug addiction and/or homelessness. And a few are probably just narcissistic attention whores.

You can attempt to rationalize to your heart's content, but it doesn't change anything, especially not facts.

My original points stand, unaltered.

This is why I rarely post on public forums. Too many people at such a low level that it's really not worth it to engage. I did this one time for the benefit of the person who asked the question, not to debate, which I don't do. There is absolutely nothing in that. People have to grow and evolve by their own accord. It's not my bother. But hey if you enjoy being at a low level, then you do you.

In the interests of clarity, regardless of whether or not it was carried out by the state, The Holocaust was not legal. It caused what some might describe as a bit of a fracas, on account of amounting to a crime against humanity. It was a while ago, I will concede, but was a key motivation of a quite large war. I’m surprised you’ve managed to remain unawares.

The illegality was later confirmed when very many Nazis - from military leaders and politicians, through doctors and down to Judges and Lawyers - were tried, convicted and sentenced to death or rather extended spells in prison by a series of military tribunals commencing with the Nuremberg Trials.

I know I’ve made a couple of off-hand references to Holocaust denial in recent days, but please don’t take those comments at face value and then assert that the Holocaust was legal. It’s somewhat a social faux-pas.

**Chrisr1818** · by **Chrisr1818** » 28 December 2020, 14:33

The whole point of an escort is not to have drinks and get to know each other. Simply put it money for sex. If you want to have drinks try a dating site.

**Scobri** · by **Scobri** » 29 December 2020, 05:53

**Scobri** · by **Scobri** » 29 December 2020, 06:36

"So, if someone does not agree with you, it’s time to throw your toys out of the pram?

Honestly, grow up!"

You're the only one throwing things, a hissy fit it seems!

God looks forward to you growing up. I wish you well on that journey!

**Jzone** · by **Jzone** » 29 December 2020, 16:54

Chrisr1818 wrote:The whole point of an escort is not to have drinks and get to know each other. Simply put it money for sex. If you want to have drinks try a dating site.

There is a range of "sex worker." Simply money for sex is a hooker, whore, or streetwalker. The point of an escort is to accompany a client, usually to a public event (party, show, dinner out, etc), then maybe sex. Hence the name. There are other nuanced varieties: gigolo, courtesan, madam, and more.

**Jzone** · by **Jzone** » 29 December 2020, 19:23

This is why I rarely post on public forums. Too many people at such a low level that it's really not worth it to engage. I did this one time for the benefit of the person who asked the question, not to debate, which I don't do. There is absolutely nothing in that. People have to grow and evolve by their own accord. It's not my bother. But hey if you enjoy being at a low level, then you do you.

People who respond to a simple disagreement by referencing Nazis or the Holocaust and by misrepresenting what others say should rarely (if ever) post on public forums. I appreciate that. I also do not debate, but I do enjoy mature and civil discussions with differing points of view. That seems unlikely in this case.

Simple-minded people tend to divide the world (or at least its people) into good/evil, sinner/saint, right/wrong. Fortunately, this world is much more interesting than that.

**Eryx** · by **Eryx** » 30 December 2020, 04:58

Scobri wrote:a hissy fit it seems!

Indeed.

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