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Trouble With Douching - Please Help!

Unread postby bottoming » 16 February 2019, 01:07

Hi guys.

I love to bottom, but my body doesn't seem to want me to...
I've read all the tricks in the book - from diet, pills, how far to douche, to not douching at all and I haven't found something that really works for me yet.

I have a pretty good diet, I take fibre supplements called CLEAN after my lunch (similar to Pure but more easily available in the UK), I drink loads of water and I drink a detox drink called Detox Organics every morning which claims to give you a clean poop. I do 'go' pretty regularly, but I feel like no matter what, there's always something up there and I don't feel confident about having sex.

So like most guys, I turn to douching. I use the shower hose without the head on a low pressure and have tried all different amounts of time to let the water run up there. 5 seconds, 7, 10, 12 (that's when it goes too high up and makes a bigger mess).

I'd say once every 10 times I actually get fully clean and stay clean. All the other times I either don't get clean and give up after 30-45mins or I think I'm clean, then show up for a fuck and go to the toilet and find a mess in the bowl...

Is there something wrong with me? Could I have IBS or something? Could my second sphincter be busted and letting poop down into the rectum more often than it should? Has anyone else had this kind of issue before and how did you overcome it? It really gets me down and has an effect on my confidence. I know everyone is different, but I've met guys who are just miraculously squeaky clean all the time (except when they need a poo obviously) and I don't understand how I can be so far from that?

Could it be a regularity thing? If I was douching and getting fucked every day would my body adjust somehow?

Please help!!
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Re: Trouble With Douching - Please Help!

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 16 February 2019, 02:47

You know how Christians sometimes say “the Lord works in mysterious ways?” I think this is one of those instances where higher powers are telling you your future is not in bottoming.

But you’re right about how some guys do seem to be squeaky clean, like those guys from Helix Studios. Others, like our forum member Michael (homomorphism), are so naturally clean you can practically eat off his crack. Heck it might even come out cleaner than when it went in.
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Re: Trouble With Douching - Please Help!

Unread postby Brasileiro » 16 February 2019, 16:31

Do not douche, period.

There is nothing up there and if there is, so what? If your partner is scared of a bit of poop he can wear a condom (which is a good idea anyway).

If you have a normal healthy bowel habit you are clean. There is no need for enemas or douches. In fact an enema or douche can cause more problems than they solve and have been implicated in the increased transmission of STIs (inc HIV).

In order to understand why you need to understand the normal physiology of the lower bowel.

The upper bowel (stomach & small bowel) is responsible for the breakdown and absorption of the nutrients of the food you eat. The by product is then moved into the large colon where the main function is the absorption of water, on a daily basis 1.5-2.5 litres of water enter the large bowel and only 100-200ml leaves as faeces.

Faeces do not constantly enter the rectum, instead they accumulate in the last segment of the colon (sigmoid) and are moved on mass into the rectum. On arrival pressure sensors notify the brain of the need to defecate and when socially appropriate you do so. The rectum is lined with mucus secreting glands which coat the outside of the faeces with a thin slippery coating in order to ensure the smooth departure of the faeces without residue.

So, all functioning normally, between bowel motions your rectum should already be clean and empty. A normal person needs to go for a bowel motion between three times a day and once every three days.

Whilst we are here, please don’t scrub your bum clean with loo paper. It is abrasive and ends up grinding faeces into the skin of the bum causing irritation. You are best to wipe away the worst with the toilet paper, and then use a bidet, shower or a moist wipe to gently remove the rest. Your bum will thank you.

So why do enemas exist?

Enemas were created as a temporary solution to the medical problem of constipation.

Unfortunately in the early 1900s two fashionable ideas saw their use spread to the general population. Firstly, the idea that regulating your child bowels through the use of regular enemas would reduce masturbation (myth). Second, that regulating your own bowels through the use of enemas would avoid the need to go during socially inconvenient times (terribly important when you want to impress the well to do!).

This second idea revealed the downsides of interfering in your normal bowel function. Overuse of enemas results in the bowel failing to function normally and you become dependant on them.

For gay men, the belief in enemas and douching stems from the urban myth that the rectum is constantly full of faeces and that anal sex = poo pushing. Poor diets and poor bowel habits only reinforced this fallacious need.

During insertion of a douche or enema trauma to the rectal tissues can occur resulting in pain during anal intercourse. Additionally the chemicals of a douche can cause a low-grade irritation that only becomes obvious during anal intercourse. It may be that you don’t enjoy anal sex because you’ve douched!

“But I only use water.” Using water only still removes the mucus lining of the rectum that may have a protective function. A number of commonly available sexual lubricants have been shown to cause irritation of the rectal tissues and an intact mucus layer reduces this.

There are a limited number of studies that show an increased risk of STI transmission following douching (mainly HIV & hepatitis studies). There are a larger number of studies that show microscopic damage to the rectal mucosa following douching and from this there is biological plausibility for the concern about probable increased risk of STI transmission.

The recent abandonment of a microbiocide study (for vaginal intercourse) due to increased transmission of HIV from microscopic changes induced by a chemical that seemed quite safe reinforces the concern and biological plausibility that douching could lead to an increased risk of STI transmission.

So how do I get a healthy normal bowel habit?

The biggest causes of retained faeces within the rectum are the prolonged delay in defecation once the rectum is full, and inadequate dietary fibre from the consumption of over processed foods.

As stated above in the section on the normal functioning of the bowel the rectum has pressure sensors to notify the brain once a load is ready and waiting. These pressure sensors are so fine-tuned they can tell the difference between gas (a fart) and solid, so that you know when you can safely relax your sphincters without shitting yourself. Prolonged delays in defecating once the rectum is full leads to overstretching of these sensors and they lose their sensitivity and fail to let you know that there is still some faeces in the rectum.

So, you are best to go crap shortly after the message reaches your brain of the need. Delaying this causes problems. (As does trying to force shit out when it is not time to go – piles often follow this futile act.)

Dietary fibre comes from whole grain breads & cereals (not over processed fluff!) and lots of fresh fruit and vegetables.

Although fluids are mentioned in all discussions on constipation their contribution is usually minor unless you are chronically dehydrated. An adult only needs a minimum of one litre of fluid a day for normal function of all their organ systems; this includes tea, coffee and other beverages. (The belief that water only counts is an urban myth.)


Fibre upplements and detox drinks do not do a thing. They just jump into the market of the health hype . Unless you use psyllium.
Get plenty real fibre in your body.


Have spontanious sex. No preparation other than cleaning on the outside. Way more fun, trust me.
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Re: Trouble With Douching - Please Help!

Unread postby bottoming » 5 March 2019, 00:16

Guys - I've had a breakthrough! Updating here in case anyone else had been going through the same thing - it really does knock your confidence...

So after reading loads of different articles and forums, I thought maybe I was using too much water. Every arse is different right? So someone else's rectum could be bigger than mine. Until a year ago I was holding the douche pipe up there for 8-12 seconds and I kept having 'shit' results. I'd think I was clean, and then I'd get loads of mess, or it would just never get clean.

In the last year I lowered that to 5-7 seconds using a water pressure of about 6" squirt out of the hose and had the same results.

In the last 2 weeks I've been trying something else. After I've been to the toilet, I douche with the water pressure only at 2-3 inches high and only hold it up there for 2-3 seconds, then let it out and repeat. Within 10 minutes my ass is like a vagina! Super clean and smelling fresh. after about half an hour I get a little bit of water coming out, but that's normal due to the shape of the rectum and then I'm clean for hours! I just got back from a super slutty weekend in Amsterdam and tested this thoroughly and it worked for me!

I can't tell you how much of a relief this is. I actually feel confident about bottoming now!

I must have been going way into my lower colon before and bringing down all the mess. Now i'm shiny and clean - and I only bottom for huge dicks, some of which do pass into my lower colon, and they've still come out clean and tidy!

Hope this helps someone else too :-)
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