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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Jzone » 10 June 2019, 01:18

Derek wrote:It's not sudden. I'm just woke. There are none woker.

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"woke, woker, wokest" are the highest forms of human achievement possible, of course. Please enlighten us...
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Derek » 10 June 2019, 01:49

Jzone wrote:
Derek wrote:It's not sudden. I'm just woke. There are none woker.

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"woke, woker, wokest" are the highest forms of human achievement possible, of course. Please enlighten us...

It's the little things. Passing a colored man on the street? Try not spitting at him. Introduced to a female co-worker? Don't go through her personnel records and abduct her from her home. Incorporate a few of these tricks into your daily routine and you'll be calling out bigots and dabbing on fleek (?) with the best of them.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Iamjava » 10 June 2019, 01:52

but if its a group of coloreds, its ok to throw a spoon at them and try to retrieve it?
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Jzone » 10 June 2019, 02:13

Derek wrote:
Jzone wrote:
Derek wrote:It's not sudden. I'm just woke. There are none woker.

:bowdown:
"woke, woker, wokest" are the highest forms of human achievement possible, of course. Please enlighten us...

It's the little things. Passing a colored man on the street? Try not spitting at him. Introduced to a female co-worker? Don't go through her personnel records and abduct her from her home. Incorporate a few of these tricks into your daily routine and you'll be calling out bigots and dabbing on fleek (?) with the best of them.

Fuck! If it's that easy, I've been woke for 45+ years!
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 10 June 2019, 02:50

Derek wrote:Incorporate a few of these tricks into your daily routine and you'll be calling out bigots and dabbing on fleek (?) with the best of them.

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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Derek » 10 June 2019, 05:45

Oh, kids say that? I thought it was a black thing.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Mike_Phel » 10 June 2019, 11:02

Referring to a black man as 'colored' in 2019 is a bit bizarre.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Brenden » 10 June 2019, 11:09

Mike_Phel wrote:Referring to a black man as 'colored' in 2019 is a bit bizarre.

It’s almost as if it’s meant to be, like, tongue-in-cheek.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Mike_Phel » 10 June 2019, 15:54

Brenden wrote:
Mike_Phel wrote:Referring to a black man as 'colored' in 2019 is a bit bizarre.

It’s almost as if it’s meant to be, like, tongue-in-cheek.


You can never really determine the true intentions from an isolated written post...
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Brenden » 10 June 2019, 16:06

Mike_Phel wrote:
Brenden wrote:
Mike_Phel wrote:Referring to a black man as 'colored' in 2019 is a bit bizarre.

It’s almost as if it’s meant to be, like, tongue-in-cheek.

You can never really determine the true intentions from an isolated written post...

It's not an isolated written post.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby poolerboy0077 » 10 June 2019, 16:35

Mike_Phel wrote:Referring to a black man as 'colored' in 2019 is a bit bizarre.

I agree. That comment was completely uncalled for and inappropriate. Racism is a crime. And crime is for black people.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Eryx » 10 June 2019, 17:30

This thread is completely derailed
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Derek » 10 June 2019, 20:21

Eryx wrote:This thread is completely derailed

Then I've done my job.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby shyseed » 16 June 2019, 17:17

the pozing movement is something i dont like
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby PopTart » 19 June 2019, 16:52

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Yeauxleaux wrote:The contradiction of saying "no means no" in one context (something I'm absolute about and always support) but then also dragging "internalised homophobe" gay men for not being open to dating feminine/fat/[insert race] men. I thought "no meant no"... no? Or does it only mean no when it's not a "privileged" masculine attractive gay man who YOU wanna fuck?


I wonder if it's like like in the Lesbian community? Like lesbians not wanting to date butch women. Then again I've never heard a lesbian women say "I will not date a butch women". I may of said to myself and been told by my mom not to look butch but I've never been oppose to dating butch women. However, I never find myself attracted to butch women and that's perfectly fine.

I can confirm that this is a thing for lesbians too.

One of my managers at work, is adamant she would never consider dating a butch woman, she herself is somewhat middle ground, being boyish at times but distinctly feminine.

The way she puts it, she likes traditionally feminine girls.

For me, the demand for acceptance in society, when I personally feel tolerance is what we should aim for.

A small distinction, but an important one. I dont think we should expect to be embraced by every flavour of the worlds cultures and communities, demanding tolerance is a reasonable demand, expecting acceptance across the board, I think that's wishful thinking.

By acceptance I mean, endorsement and celebration. There are definately those cultures and communities who will, for various reasons, never embrace homosexuality, sad but true. We have a right to demand tolerance from those sections of society, for equality, freedom and liberty, but to demand that they be happy and encouraging, I think that's seen as our attempting to foist our values upon someone else. Respect has to go both ways and sometimes that means acknowledging where we are never going to see eye to eye and affording eachother the space to live in the manner we choose without ostracism.

Too often I feel elements of the gay community, dont want to admit such and see it as a defeat or admission of the opposition being right on some level, to regard homosexuality as a negative.

I wish more people would campaign for tolerance, rather than labour under an expectation of whole hearted acceptance, you dont win hearts and minds by bludgeoning people over the head with your values, demanding they see things your way, embittering their attitudes and causing deeper divisions and resentment.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Iamjava » 19 June 2019, 16:59

i see it more in the light of a difficult negotiation: both parties begin with demands on polar extremes and continue bargaining until a a compromise is reached.
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Mike_Phel » 24 June 2019, 10:23

poolerboy0077 wrote:
Mike_Phel wrote:Referring to a black man as 'colored' in 2019 is a bit bizarre.

I agree. That comment was completely uncalled for and inappropriate. Racism is a crime. And crime is for black people.



Why is crime only for black people?
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby erti » 24 June 2019, 10:26

Mike_Phel wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:
Mike_Phel wrote:Referring to a black man as 'colored' in 2019 is a bit bizarre.

I agree. That comment was completely uncalled for and inappropriate. Racism is a crime. And crime is for black people.



Why is crime only for black people?


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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby Reyes » 25 June 2019, 01:25

PopTart wrote:For me, the demand for acceptance in society, when I personally feel tolerance is what we should aim for...

Like you said expecting tolerance across the board is wishful thinking, but there's just something about someone 'tolerating' my existence that puts me off. I can't put it into perfect words but it just feels as though it allows people to carry resentment and disgust simply because they don't overtly disagree with my sexual preferences. It kind of reminds me of when people say 'I don't mind gays...just as long as they don't kiss in front of me'. Its like they tolerate your existence only in a capacity which suits them. It feels for me as though caping for tolerance more than acceptance, will still allow people to continue to harbor these little feelings of disgust and micro aggressions. But yeah like you said, we can't expect to be embraced by everyone in every corner of the world, just is what it is.

Also does tolerance extend to having things such as LGBT education? This is important but I don't feel as though it falls under 'tolerance', perhaps more acceptance?
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Re: What are some bad ideas pervasive in the gay community?

Unread postby mxguy01 » 25 June 2019, 01:51

Reyes wrote:
PopTart wrote:For me, the demand for acceptance in society, when I personally feel tolerance is what we should aim for...

Like you said expecting tolerance across the board is wishful thinking, but there's just something about someone 'tolerating' my existence that puts me off. I can't put it into perfect words but it just feels as though it allows people to carry resentment and disgust simply because they don't overtly disagree with my sexual preferences. It kind of reminds me of when people say 'I don't mind gays...just as long as they don't kiss in front of me'. Its like they tolerate your existence only in a capacity which suits them. It feels for me as though caping for tolerance more than acceptance, will still allow people to continue to harbor these little feelings of disgust and micro aggressions. But yeah like you said, we can't expect to be embraced by everyone in every corner of the world, just is what it is.

Also does tolerance extend to having things such as LGBT education? This is important but I don't feel as though it falls under 'tolerance', perhaps more acceptance?


I get a bit what you are saying. Like the guy who was clearly homophobic said to me (I believe not knowing I'm gay) that he was OK with it - a long as they kept it to themselves - very much implying the closet. Clarified he was christian and didn't like his kids being influenced... thus also suggestive of .... So yours is just a less obvious example of what I would refer to bigotry disguised in order to pass as being acceptable behavior. Tolerant would be saying "I don't like seeing it but they have every right to kiss as straight couples".
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