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Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 22 October 2019, 23:44
by Capt._Trips
I don't eat any of the pre-made coleslaw. It's not very good. Especially when compared to homemade coleslaw. It might as well be two different foods.
Pre made Macaroni salad and potato salad are the same way. But there okay for price and convenience.

I think you'll find multiple different ingredients depending on the brand you look at. It's not an American thing. More depending on the company trying to profit as much as possible. That's a universal practice.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 01:33
by poolerboy0077
You know what’s even worse than pre-made coleslaw? Pre-made potato salad, especially the southern kind. I had to bring in a priest to exorcise my trash can.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 02:30
by Capt._Trips
Brenden wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:
Brenden wrote:I can’t believe how sickeningly sweet coleslaw is in the US. (And I’m surprised child me didn’t like it.)

How do they make it in the UK? With vinegar and ale?

Tesco Finest coleslaw lists its ingredients as: “Cabbage (40%), Rapeseed Oil, Carrot, Crème Fraîche (Milk), Pasteurised Egg Yolk, Water, Onion, Spirit Vinegar, Sugar, Salt, Chive, Mustard Flour, Stabilisers (Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum),” with a total sugar content of 2.9 g / 100 g.

Kroger lists its creamy coleslaw as having the ingredients: “Cabbage, Mayonnaise (Soybean Oil, Distilled Vinegar, Egg Yolk, Water, Salt, Natural Flavor), Sugar. Contains 2% or Less of the Following: Pickle Relish (Cucumbers, Sugar, Salt, Xanthan Gum, Alum, Natural Flavors, Polysorbate 80, Turmeric [For Color]), Carrots, Bell Peppers, Salt, Citric Acid, Sodium Acid Sulfate, Sodium Ascorbate, Celery Seed, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Benzoate and Potassium Sorbate (Preservatives), Ascorbyl Palmitate, White Pepper, Ascorbic Acid, Wheat Germ.” Its total sugar content is (and I have to do some math because the nutrition label is bullshit) about 14 g / 100 g.

The difference is basically just that bucketloads of sugar is added in the US.

But wait! Kroger also sells a “sweet coleslaw”. But its sugar content is actually 1 g less than the “creamy” one…

No wonder Americans are fat fucks.


What's with your hatred of America?
It was one of the first observations I had when joining. I'm just curious on why you hate this country so much.

I have a totally different view. I'm In the camp anything is possible out here. Even different coleslaw. ( who could dare such a thing. Gosh) but your gonna have to work hard for it. My parents weren't rich when I was being raised but they worked us out of poverty. And I have nothing but respect for there hard work. Actually makes me work harder to try and keep to there standards.

Idk it seems you have a very bad view of America. I'm just curious why?

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 02:46
by Derek
Americans are objectively fat fucks.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 02:47
by mxguy01
I go to the South (think deep South) and stay in Aikin, SC for work. The sales person I first visited the place with taught me the BnB was way better than the dingy Holiday Inn favored by some of those people like PB's kind; bless her heart as she was a sweat person.

Anyways, grits (still not really sure wtf a grit is), corn beef hash and all kinds of other bad stuff for breakfast. But when in Rome...

Not surprising that when you look at statistics where problems lay that some will be misled. So obiesity can also be attributed to an social economic issues as well especially if you look at statistics within the US. The economically disadvantage in the US have higher likelihood, so I guess we should just beat them with sticks?

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 02:51
by Derek
Did she sweat on you?

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 03:02
by poolerboy0077
Derek wrote:Americans are objectively fat fucks.

Last time I saw you you were a skinny little twig. Have you grown a voluptuous fupa since?




Okay so I’m in a bit of a pickle and need your guy’s input. There’s this guy in his mid-thirties at work who brings us courtesy copies and always is talking to my bailiff about sports, as lame straight guys do. The thing is for some reason he thinks my name is Anthony. I don’t know where he got that, but that’s what he calls me. He doesn’t even pronounce it right. He says it in some weird Hispanic-y way like Ahn-toe-knee. I don’t know. That’s not important. The important part of this story is that I never corrected him. I don’t know why. Maybe I didn’t want him to be embarrassed? My decision was monumentally stupid because now I’m too far into the lie. It’s too late to say something, isn’t it? My bailiff doesn’t seem to care about my plight. Now that my old court reporter is back, who has no filter and never misses an opportunity to call me out or troll me, I fear she’ll hear him one of these days and make it even worse. And the only one who dug this ditch was me. Now I need your help. What is a way I can correct him at this stage of the mess with the least amount of embarrassment and blowback?

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 11:25
by Brenden
Capt._Trips wrote:I don't eat any of the pre-made coleslaw. It's not very good. Especially when compared to homemade coleslaw. It might as well be two different foods.

Today's most-made coleslaw recipe on AllRecipes.com has 100 g of added sugar, or 12.5 g per serving or 12.6 g / 100 g (and that's not including the sugar content of its 160 g of "creamy salad dressing (such as Miracle Whip™)").

Capt._Trips wrote:I think you'll find multiple different ingredients depending on the brand you look at.

Grandma's Original Recipes Cole Slaw from WalMart contains 15 g of sugar per 100 g. So that's pretty much the same as the Kroger brand one I already posted about.

Capt._Trips wrote:It's not an American thing. More depending on the company trying to profit as much as possible. That's a universal practice.

Except I just showed you evidence that a typical and comparable coleslaw in the United Kingdom contains far less sugar. So no, dumping bucketloads of sugar into products is not a "universal practice".

Capt._Trips wrote:I have a totally different view. I'm In the camp anything is possible out here. Even different coleslaw. ( who could dare such a thing. Gosh) but your gonna have to work hard for it. My parents weren't rich when I was being raised but they worked us out of poverty. And I have nothing but respect for there hard work. Actually makes me work harder to try and keep to there standards.

What the fuck does that have to do with sugar in coleslaw?

Capt._Trips wrote:What's with your hatred of America?
It was one of the first observations I had when joining. I'm just curious on why you hate this country so much.
Capt._Trips wrote:Idk it seems you have a very bad view of America. I'm just curious why?

Because I grew up in the country, and have now been living abroad for a decade. My mind isn't addled with propaganda such as the American Dream.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 20:23
by lightnight
poolerboy0077 wrote:Okay so I’m in a bit of a pickle and need your guy’s input. There’s this guy in his mid-thirties at work who brings us courtesy copies and always is talking to my bailiff about sports, as lame straight guys do. The thing is for some reason he thinks my name is Anthony. I don’t know where he got that, but that’s what he calls me. He doesn’t even pronounce it right. He says it in some weird Hispanic-y way like Ahn-toe-knee. I don’t know. That’s not important. The important part of this story is that I never corrected him. I don’t know why. Maybe I didn’t want him to be embarrassed? My decision was monumentally stupid because now I’m too far into the lie. It’s too late to say something, isn’t it? My bailiff doesn’t seem to care about my plight. Now that my old court reporter is back, who has no filter and never misses an opportunity to call me out or troll me, I fear she’ll hear him one of these days and make it even worse. And the only one who dug this ditch was me. Now I need your help. What is a way I can correct him at this stage of the mess with the least amount of embarrassment and blowback?


Ask him if you could have a word with him in private. Then when you're alone, tell him that it's uncomfortable for you to explain this but your name is actually not Anthony but (your real name). The only reason you have not corrected him so far is that you didn't want to seem rude by correcting him in public like that.

Tell him you're aware that this is awkward but you have let this go on for a while and you had to do it some time.

I'm sure he'll understand. If he doesn't, he'll still know and your witty coworker won't be the one helping him make that discovery.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 22:52
by poolerboy0077
:lol: I appreciate the help but you were too late. He never comes by in the morning but he did today and she was there and heard it. I never heard the end of it all morning. :cry:

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 23 October 2019, 23:05
by Derek
Tell everyone it's your middle name.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 24 October 2019, 01:12
by poolerboy0077
Derek wrote:Tell everyone it's your middle name.

But then I’d have to drop Twink-Destroyer. :(

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 24 October 2019, 01:35
by Capt._Trips
Brenden wrote:
Capt._Trips wrote:I don't eat any of the pre-made coleslaw. It's not very good. Especially when compared to homemade coleslaw. It might as well be two different foods.

Today's most-made coleslaw recipe on AllRecipes.com has 100 g of added sugar, or 12.5 g per serving or 12.6 g / 100 g (and that's not including the sugar content of its 160 g of "creamy salad dressing (such as Miracle Whip™)").

Capt._Trips wrote:I think you'll find multiple different ingredients depending on the brand you look at.

Grandma's Original Recipes Cole Slaw from WalMart contains 15 g of sugar per 100 g. So that's pretty much the same as the Kroger brand one I already posted about.

Capt._Trips wrote:It's not an American thing. More depending on the company trying to profit as much as possible. That's a universal practice.

Except I just showed you evidence that a typical and comparable coleslaw in the United Kingdom contains far less sugar. So no, dumping bucketloads of sugar into products is not a "universal practice".

Capt._Trips wrote:I have a totally different view. I'm In the camp anything is possible out here. Even different coleslaw. ( who could dare such a thing. Gosh) but your gonna have to work hard for it. My parents weren't rich when I was being raised but they worked us out of poverty. And I have nothing but respect for there hard work. Actually makes me work harder to try and keep to there standards.

What the fuck does that have to do with sugar in coleslaw?

Capt._Trips wrote:What's with your hatred of America?
It was one of the first observations I had when joining. I'm just curious on why you hate this country so much.
Capt._Trips wrote:Idk it seems you have a very bad view of America. I'm just curious why?

Because I grew up in the country, and have now been living abroad for a decade. My mind isn't addled with propaganda such as the American Dream.


I'm not gonna respond to your first few quotes cause your just searching specific brands ANd posting ingredients. If I had enough care I could find 5 US brands of coleslaw with little to no sugar and 5 Uk brands that have large amounts of sugar.
We could play that game forever. Lol

But as I said its dependant on a producer NOT a country.

I guess I'm more asking what is the reason for your disdain for America. I've seen you multiple times bash America. That's all great you live in the UK and have a hard on for it. But what's the difference?

Immigrants I've met from impoverished countries tend to have great Amount of praise. I used I work for a woman that lived in Spain and the USA. And she would tell me about how much more options there are here. She ended up retiring here. With a dance studio that has lived through 3 generations and 50 years. ( actually the longest running dance studio in this county)
I'm more interested in your personal observations.

Not really an ingredient list of a product I don't eat.

What have you seen that makes your current situation better then your situation in the USA?

You pretty much moved as soon as you were an adult right? I think youth in this country can have it bad sometimes. But again I think that's pretty universal. Adults have a much different experience.

Tbh I feel like you have the opposite of the propaganda of the American dream. And feel you have found something so different. When in reality its not. We all have problems everyday. And country of place in the world won't change that. I'm sure the problems change some but the grass isn't always greener.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 24 October 2019, 08:25
by rogonandi
My stomach has hurt like hell for much of the night. I’m wondering if I could be ill or something.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 24 October 2019, 10:40
by Marmaduke
rogonandi wrote:My stomach has hurt like hell for much of the night. I’m wondering if I could be ill or something.

It would certain seem as though illness or something else might be the cause.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 24 October 2019, 10:47
by Brenden
Capt._Trips wrote:I'm not gonna respond to your first few quotes cause your just searching specific brands ANd posting ingredients. If I had enough care I could find 5 US brands of coleslaw with little to no sugar and 5 Uk brands that have large amounts of sugar.
We could play that game forever. Lol

But as I said its dependant on a producer NOT a country.

No, I haven't been selective at all, I haven't just searched for specific brands that support my claim. I've posted the ones available from the two largest supermarket chains in the United States to illustrate what is typical. Likewise, I posted the most-made recipe from the largest recipe website in the United States. My point is the compare the typical product consumed by many Americans to the typical product consumed by many Brits. You can go ahead and (try to) find specific brands that have more or less sugar, but that's irrelevant to the point about what most people in the United States vs the United Kingdom are eating or even think of when they think coleslaw.

Here are the standard coleslaws available from the 4 largest UK supermarkets:
Tesco: 5.3 g sugar / 100 g
ASDA: 5.5 g sugar / 100 g
Sainsbury's: 4.5 g sugar / 100 g
Morrisons: 4.4 g sugar / 100 g

Capt._Trips wrote:I guess I'm more asking what is the reason for your disdain for America. I've seen you multiple times bash America. That's all great you live in the UK and have a hard on for it. But what's the difference?

I don't have a particular hard-on for the UK. There are many things it could do better at. My ideal country would take elements from the UK, Netherlands, Japan, Switzerland, Germany, Norway, etc.

I disdain America because so many Americans think it's the greatest. Their blind patriotism and wilful ignorance is insufferable.

Capt._Trips wrote:Immigrants I've met from impoverished countries tend to have great Amount of praise.

I'm sure the US is a huge step up from impoverished countries. So? That doesn't say anything about how America stands up to other developed countries.

Capt._Trips wrote:I used I work for a woman that lived in Spain and the USA. And she would tell me about how much more options there are here. She ended up retiring here. With a dance studio that has lived through 3 generations and 50 years. ( actually the longest running dance studio in this county)

50 years ago Spain was ruled by Franco. So… Person who came from fascist dictatorship thinks moderately free country is better. Wow. News at 11.

Capt._Trips wrote:I'm more interested in your personal observations.

Yet you quibbled with me about my observation that started this whole conversation.

Capt._Trips wrote:Not really an ingredient list of a product I don't eat.

Well excuuuuuuuse me for supporting my observations and opinions with evidence.

Capt._Trips wrote:What have you seen that makes your current situation better then your situation in the USA?

Healthcare, public transportation, pedestrian access, tax filing system, policing, banking, telecommunications (options, price, availability), voting system, food (cost and quality). All things I have personally experienced as being far superior in the UK and generally on this side of the Atlantic.

Capt._Trips wrote:You pretty much moved as soon as you were an adult right? I think youth in this country can have it bad sometimes. But again I think that's pretty universal. Adults have a much different experience.

I know second-hand the experience of my parents in the US, and it's not pretty. My dad drove himself to the emergency room while having a pulmonary embolism because an ambulance would have been too expensive (even with insurance). My mom went without health care for three years because of lack of insurance, in which time many of her medical problems worsened and probably did irreparable damage to her health and longevity. My dad, despite having what is considered good insurance in the US, received a bill for $700 from a hospital for a checkup following the aforementioned pulmonary embolism. My stepmom's insulin costs have skyrocketed, despite having insurance.

Capt._Trips wrote:Tbh I feel like you have the opposite of the propaganda of the American dream.

The opposite of propaganda is truth.

Capt._Trips wrote:And feel you have found something so different. When in reality its not. We all have problems everyday. And country of place in the world won't change that. I'm sure the problems change some but the grass isn't always greener.

Mm, no, it's actually quite different. Objectively. Three years life-expectancy different. Half as expensive (per-capita) healthcare system different. Five-fold difference in murder rate. Four-fold difference in traffic fatality rate.

Have you ever even been outside the US?

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 25 October 2019, 00:08
by Derek
Today a coworker CC'd our boss on a passive-aggressive email chain. The banal aggravation is the most grown-up I've ever felt.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 25 October 2019, 00:58
by poolerboy0077
Derek wrote:Today a coworker CC'd our boss on a passive-aggressive email chain. The banal aggravation is the most grown-up I've ever felt.

Have you experienced your first “reply all” email chain annoyance? There was one a couple weeks ago and everyone knew what they were doing and didn’t care. They responded, of all things, to a sexual harassment course with humor, playing dumb as to what they were doing. Ugh.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 25 October 2019, 01:44
by Derek
That sounds horrible. There's one woman in Arizona who replies-all to company-wide notices with thing like "Got it!" or "Thanks!" and just that drives me insane.

Re: What are you thinking at the moment?

Unread postPosted: 26 October 2019, 02:52
by Capt._Trips
Brenden wrote:
Capt._Trips wrote:I'm not gonna respond to your first few quotes cause your just searching specific brands ANd posting ingredients. If I had enough care I could find 5 US brands of coleslaw with little to no sugar and 5 Uk brands that have large amounts of sugar.
We could play that game forever. Lol

But as I said its dependant on a producer NOT a country.

No, I haven't been selective at all, I haven't just searched for specific brands that support my claim. I've posted the ones available from the two largest supermarket chains in the United States to illustrate what is typical. Likewise, I posted the most-made recipe from the largest recipe website in the United States. My point is the compare the typical product consumed by many Americans to the typical product consumed by many Brits. You can go ahead and (try to) find specific brands that have more or less sugar, but that's irrelevant to the point about what most people in the United States vs the United Kingdom are eating or even think of when they think coleslaw.

Here are the standard coleslaws available from the 4 largest UK supermarkets:
Tesco: 5.3 g sugar / 100 g
ASDA: 5.5 g sugar / 100 g
Sainsbury's: 4.5 g sugar / 100 g
Morrisons: 4.4 g sugar / 100 g

Capt._Trips wrote:I guess I'm more asking what is the reason for your disdain for America. I've seen you multiple times bash America. That's all great you live in the UK and have a hard on for it. But what's the difference?

I don't have a particular hard-on for the UK. There are many things it could do better at. My ideal country would take elements from the UK, Netherlands, Japan, Switzerland, Germany, Norway, etc.

I disdain America because so many Americans think it's the greatest. Their blind patriotism and wilful ignorance is insufferable.

Capt._Trips wrote:Immigrants I've met from impoverished countries tend to have great Amount of praise.

I'm sure the US is a huge step up from impoverished countries. So? That doesn't say anything about how America stands up to other developed countries.

Capt._Trips wrote:I used I work for a woman that lived in Spain and the USA. And she would tell me about how much more options there are here. She ended up retiring here. With a dance studio that has lived through 3 generations and 50 years. ( actually the longest running dance studio in this county)

50 years ago Spain was ruled by Franco. So… Person who came from fascist dictatorship thinks moderately free country is better. Wow. News at 11.

Capt._Trips wrote:I'm more interested in your personal observations.

Yet you quibbled with me about my observation that started this whole conversation.

Capt._Trips wrote:Not really an ingredient list of a product I don't eat.

Well excuuuuuuuse me for supporting my observations and opinions with evidence.

Capt._Trips wrote:What have you seen that makes your current situation better then your situation in the USA?

Healthcare, public transportation, pedestrian access, tax filing system, policing, banking, telecommunications (options, price, availability), voting system, food (cost and quality). All things I have personally experienced as being far superior in the UK and generally on this side of the Atlantic.

Capt._Trips wrote:You pretty much moved as soon as you were an adult right? I think youth in this country can have it bad sometimes. But again I think that's pretty universal. Adults have a much different experience.

I know second-hand the experience of my parents in the US, and it's not pretty. My dad drove himself to the emergency room while having a pulmonary embolism because an ambulance would have been too expensive (even with insurance). My mom went without health care for three years because of lack of insurance, in which time many of her medical problems worsened and probably did irreparable damage to her health and longevity. My dad, despite having what is considered good insurance in the US, received a bill for $700 from a hospital for a checkup following the aforementioned pulmonary embolism. My stepmom's insulin costs have skyrocketed, despite having insurance.

Capt._Trips wrote:Tbh I feel like you have the opposite of the propaganda of the American dream.

The opposite of propaganda is truth.

Capt._Trips wrote:And feel you have found something so different. When in reality its not. We all have problems everyday. And country of place in the world won't change that. I'm sure the problems change some but the grass isn't always greener.

Mm, no, it's actually quite different. Objectively. Three years life-expectancy different. Half as expensive (per-capita) healthcare system different. Five-fold difference in murder rate. Four-fold difference in traffic fatality rate.

Have you ever even been outside the US?

I don't have to to know that nowhere in the world is great. And hatred is only adding to the problems in the world. But you seem your mind is made up. And I'm nobody to try and change it. I was just trying to get you to admit you hate America. I didn't expect you to give so easy. But^^^^^......