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Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 26 June 2017, 20:08
by poolerboy0077
If you do, have you ever used it? Do you even know how to properly handle it? If you don't, what's stopping you from owning one? Have you ever had a situation in which it would've been useful to own one?

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 27 June 2017, 01:13
by Yeauxleaux
I don't think I'd ever own a firearm, it's so tightly controlled in The UK anyway.

We're not even allowed pepper spray here, we're that crazy. I've considered making some of my own in light of recent events and carrying it discreetly, but that's effort.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 27 June 2017, 03:11
by Paragon
I've never been in a situation in which having a gun would have helped more than put people in danger. Though I fully recognize that there are places where that's not the case. For example, if I happened to live in the Philippines? I can't even drive to the town where I was born without passing through a roadblock set up by militant communists (the islamists are way in the south) . Absolutely I would own a gun. I would be surrounded by minions who have guns.

But seeing as I live in suburban America and I am poor, I feel like having a gun for any reason would be more expensive than practical or useful.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 27 June 2017, 04:13
by Justin
I've seriously considered owning a firearm, but I don't. Now that I'm a Californian®™ I probably couldn't obtain one as easily as I could have in Pennsylvania, but I never bothered actually spending the money to own one in Pennsylvania. I've been in two situations where it may have been useful. I was mugged once, although by the time I figured out what the hell had happened they were gone, and I also had some random crackhead get in to my car and refuse to get out, although shaking the solid brass handle of my cane seemed to work effectively.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 27 June 2017, 05:01
by Prince_G_24
I've considered getting one many times. Unfortunately in the state that I live the prices for permits is now higher than Snoop Dogg on 4/20 so that's been a bit of a deterrent.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 27 June 2017, 12:51
by lightnight
poolerboy0077 wrote:If you do, have you ever used it?

I don't own a firearm for self defense.

poolerboy0077 wrote:Do you even know how to properly handle it?

No.

poolerboy0077 wrote:If you don't, what's stopping you from owning one?

I don't think I'm going to need one. When I think self defense, I think about stuff like running, or kicking someone in the nuts, not pulling a gun. And quite frankly, I don't think about self defense a lot. I just stay at home or go to my desk job. I don't have any enemies. I can't even recall being in a fist fight, ever. Can't imagine myself in a scenario requiring me to carry a gun.

poolerboy0077 wrote:Have you ever had a situation in which it would've been useful to own one?

Nope. Never.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 27 June 2017, 14:20
by acpro
I think pepper spray is a good deterrent--I bought it to keep on the leash with my dog bc when I walked him in Providence there were always sketchy people asking me for random shit. They especially, always thought I was smoking cigarettes, even though I clearly had a vape in my hand. There was twice when the people got sort of confrontational because I was "lying" about not having any cigarettes, even though again, I clearly had a vape in my hand. I walked by these sketchballs bc there was a bus stop near the park where I would walk my dog.

Also, people would have pit bulls and shit and I was worried one would attack my tiny little baby doggy--they didn't seem like responsible pet owners.

Now, that I am back in Maryland I don't have any sketchy people around me at all, so I took the pepper spray off the leash.

I've been on the receiving end of pepper spray tho and that shit works very well, unless you're inside, or its rainy, or its windy.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 27 June 2017, 17:16
by poolerboy0077
lightnight wrote:
poolerboy0077 wrote:If you do, have you ever used it?

I don't own a firearm for self defense.

poolerboy0077 wrote:Do you even know how to properly handle it?

No.

poolerboy0077 wrote:If you don't, what's stopping you from owning one?

I don't think I'm going to need one. When I think self defense, I think about stuff like running, or kicking someone in the nuts, not pulling a gun. And quite frankly, I don't think about self defense a lot. I just stay at home or go to my desk job. I don't have any enemies. I can't even recall being in a fist fight, ever. Can't imagine myself in a scenario requiring me to carry a gun.

poolerboy0077 wrote:Have you ever had a situation in which it would've been useful to own one?

Nope. Never.

Well, you don't have to carry one in your person. You could have it in your home. But if you don't want it and you're even the victim of a break-in, do you have a plan for how to handle that? Perhaps offering the criminal your butt as a humble offering?

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 28 June 2017, 03:11
by lightnight
poolerboy0077 wrote:Well, you don't have to carry one in your person. You could have it in your home. But if you don't want it and you're even the victim of a break-in, do you have a plan for how to handle that? Perhaps offering the criminal your butt as a humble offering?


Lol, I'll just help them find valuable items in my home, and trust me pooler, my butt won't be one.

But yeah, I see what you're trying to say here. Right now, we have a private security guard which the residents of our street pay for. And besides, my family doesn't even keep knives that are too sharp in our home, because of anger issues of a certain family member. Let alone a gun.

But yeah, if I'm living alone, etc, I might consider owning one.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 28 June 2017, 04:34
by Derek
lightnight wrote:And besides, my family doesn't even keep knives that are too sharp in our home, because of anger issues of a certain family member. Let alone a gun.

This hurts to read. Sharpening knives is one of my favorite pastimes.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 28 June 2017, 05:40
by Sullivan
poolerboy0077 wrote:If you don't, what's stopping you from owning one?

I'm gay and liberal and live in a city. Nature did not intend guns for me.

Have you ever had a situation in which it would've been useful to own one?

Nope. My neighbors are rich old Jews and rich young Asians. Whenever I walk past nearby houses with little ADT signs in their front yards I think, "Here are people who don't understand that they live in a cozy bubble of privilege."

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 28 June 2017, 13:01
by Sherri
I seriously want to at least know how to use a handgun. I don't want to be useless if I come upon a situation where I could make use of one and end up knocking myself out when it kicks :P.

I don't have one/haven't done that yet because I'm broke and a good handgun costs about $600 for the gun alone, not to mention registration and ammo. Plus it's the south so gun ranges are unheard of. Anybody who wants to shoot just goes out into a field and pops a couple off into a stump or at some bottles. Anybody who wants to learn to shoot just asks his cousin Jimbo. I don't have a cousin Jimbo or access to a big stretch of land to go shooting :(.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 29 June 2017, 05:04
by Paragon
Sherri wrote:I seriously want to at least know how to use a handgun. I don't want to be useless if I come upon a situation where I could make use of one and end up knocking myself out when it kicks :P.

I don't have one/haven't done that yet because I'm broke and a good handgun costs about $600 for the gun alone, not to mention registration and ammo. Plus it's the south so gun ranges are unheard of. Anybody who wants to shoot just goes out into a field and pops a couple off into a stump or at some bottles. Anybody who wants to learn to shoot just asks his cousin Jimbo. I don't have a cousin Jimbo or access to a big stretch of land to go shooting :(.

Yeah, my uncle in the airforce took me shooting, one time. The force of it wasn't what I was expecting. Like, not in a crazy overwhelming thing, but I was surprised about how I aware I had to be of the rest of my body while firing. Like you know how in moves you got skinny people with tiny arms one-handedly sideshooting shit? Highly improbable.

On the cost point, definitely a lot of people don't think about the ammo. An old buddy took me to a range and paid for me so I could shoot a bunch of fun weapons (p.s. snipers are fun). We burned through WAY TOO MUCH MONEY just literally shooting the shit.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 29 June 2017, 09:09
by poolerboy0077
Paragon wrote:
Sherri wrote:I seriously want to at least know how to use a handgun. I don't want to be useless if I come upon a situation where I could make use of one and end up knocking myself out when it kicks :P.

I don't have one/haven't done that yet because I'm broke and a good handgun costs about $600 for the gun alone, not to mention registration and ammo. Plus it's the south so gun ranges are unheard of. Anybody who wants to shoot just goes out into a field and pops a couple off into a stump or at some bottles. Anybody who wants to learn to shoot just asks his cousin Jimbo. I don't have a cousin Jimbo or access to a big stretch of land to go shooting :(.

Yeah, my uncle in the airforce took me shooting, one time. The force of it wasn't what I was expecting. Like, not in a crazy overwhelming thing, but I was surprised about how I aware I had to be of the rest of my body while firing. Like you know how in moves you got skinny people with tiny arms one-handedly sideshooting shit? Highly improbable.

On the cost point, definitely a lot of people don't think about the ammo. An old buddy took me to a range and paid for me so I could shoot a bunch of fun weapons (p.s. snipers are fun). We burned through WAY TOO MUCH MONEY just literally shooting the shit.

I need to go back to a shooting range. Those are so much fun. It's been years. I've been to an underground bunker one and an open field one. I kinda like both.

Sherry, have you at least been paint ball shooting? :P

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 29 June 2017, 20:28
by Brenden
lightnight wrote:And besides, my family doesn't even keep knives that are too sharp in our home, because of anger issues of a certain family member.

It's not the sharpness of the edge that kills, it's the point. You could kill or maim someone raming a chopstick into the right place.

Dull kitchen knives are actually dangerous. While cutting and chopping, a dull blade forces you to use a poor technique with more force, making you more likely to lose control and then do more damage once you have.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 30 June 2017, 06:11
by cxurujeto
There is a firearm in a locker in my house somewhere.
So it isn't mine. I do know how to use it though, as I have gone shooting a few times.
I own a tactical knife and pepper spray, but I don't carry the knife because I haven't trained in using it yet

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 30 June 2017, 13:11
by Sherri
poolerboy0077 wrote:
Paragon wrote:
Sherri wrote:...

Yeah, my uncle in the airforce took me shooting, one time. The force of it wasn't what I was expecting. Like, not in a crazy overwhelming thing, but I was surprised about how I aware I had to be of the rest of my body while firing. Like you know how in moves you got skinny people with tiny arms one-handedly sideshooting shit? Highly improbable.

On the cost point, definitely a lot of people don't think about the ammo. An old buddy took me to a range and paid for me so I could shoot a bunch of fun weapons (p.s. snipers are fun). We burned through WAY TOO MUCH MONEY just literally shooting the shit.

I need to go back to a shooting range. Those are so much fun. It's been years. I've been to an underground bunker one and an open field one. I kinda like both.

Sherry, have you at least been paint ball shooting? :P



I've told myself I'll get one eventually. But yes, ammo gets expensive, and basic handgun ammo is pretty cheap, so that'll be my starter.

I've never even been paintballing xD. I'm not a fan of bruises. Nerf guns are the height of my expertise :lol:.

My coworkers think I might at least be salvageable :P. I voted for Bernie/Hillary and I would love to see single-payer healthcare, but at least I want to have a gun and don't like paying taxes for welfare abuse. They'd be upset to know that I wish nobody had guns though. I just think as long as everybody has them, I may as well know how to use one.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 30 June 2017, 18:26
by acpro
Btw, guys, there's something called Pink Pistols (LGBT gun org) and Operation Sword (or something) and it's all about teaching LGBTs how to shoot--for free usually. Pink Pistols have always been around but had a resurgence after Pulse and the Operation Sword-whatever popped up after Pulse.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 1 July 2017, 11:00
by The Bastard Bourbon
Yes I own a few. Trained well in thier use (practically a surgeon with a side arm) and proper tac. Yes there are situations where I thought copper candy was about to be needed. Instead, they retreated when I locked n loaded for some "hard" diplomacy.

Re: Do you own a firearm for self defense?

Unread postPosted: 1 July 2017, 17:06
by lightnight
Brenden wrote:It's not the sharpness of the edge that kills, it's the point. You could kill or maim someone raming a chopstick into the right place.

Dull kitchen knives are actually dangerous. While cutting and chopping, a dull blade forces you to use a poor technique with more force, making you more likely to lose control and then do more damage once you have.


Hmm. I didn't know that. Thanks. And actually, even though we've had stuff broken and punched into, nobody has ever picked up a knife in anger yet, so it might not be that serious.. But that's the reason my mother would give for the knives being dull.


Derek wrote:
lightnight wrote:And besides, my family doesn't even keep knives that are too sharp in our home, because of anger issues of a certain family member. Let alone a gun.

This hurts to read. Sharpening knives is one of my favorite pastimes.


That's a very unique pasttime.