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Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 19:42
by René
Severelius wrote:
René wrote:We've been watching some 3D movies with Brenden's mom and stepdad on their 3D TV. Surprisingly enjoyable.

So far including: Jurassic World, Coco, Guardians of the Galaxy and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

I wish I could watch movies in 3D. :(

It's such a shame they gave up on home 3D and stopped making the TVs. You can still find them second-hand, though, and there's always 3D headsets (but obviously that's no good if you want to watch stuff together with other people).

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 19:56
by Brenden
I wonder if it will make a comeback once 4K panels are able to do 240 Hz.

But maybe not, because 3D seems to be a fading fad in all respects, from the number of studios producing 3D movies to the number of cinemas presenting 3D versions. Back around late 2000s, it seemed like every mainstream movie was being released in 3D, but now it's only a select few, typically the biggest-budget ones that also release in IMAX.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 19:57
by Marmaduke
I’m not sure I’ve ever thought 3D was integrated into a film in a way that didn’t feel gimmicky and pointless. Plus, as a glasses wearer, the additional pair of glasses I had to wear was both uncomfortable and ridiculous looking.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:02
by René
Marmaduke wrote:I’m not sure I’ve ever thought 3D was integrated into a film in a way that didn’t feel gimmicky and pointless. Plus, as a glasses wearer, the additional pair of glasses I had to wear was both uncomfortable and ridiculous looking.

It's beautiful in Coco. And very cool in Dr Strange.

The glasses they've got fit over regular glasses perfectly fine, and it's not like anyone's gonna be looking at you in the dark. :P

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:07
by Marmaduke
Nah, I don’t see that it brings enough to the party to ever make a comeback. If someone can make a breakthrough and develop 3D screens that don’t need glasses, I can maybe see a commercial future for that. But I can imagine the operating angle of view for such a panel would have to be so narrow as to render it useless.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:12
by Brenden
Polarised glasses are so light and easy to wear while watching a 3D movie, with or without corrective glasses also on.

What I like most about 3D is it looking like the TV is a window into a little world. Gimmicky is what they used to do back in the days of red-blue 3D glasses at, like, amusement parks, where they'd do a 10-minute show with lots of crap jumping out of the screen at viewers.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:17
by Marmaduke
I dunno, maybe the difference in correction between my eyes is spoiling the effect for me somehow or something. I’ve always thought it was super...meh.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:34
by Severelius
René wrote:
Severelius wrote:
René wrote:We've been watching some 3D movies with Brenden's mom and stepdad on their 3D TV. Surprisingly enjoyable.

So far including: Jurassic World, Coco, Guardians of the Galaxy and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

I wish I could watch movies in 3D. :(

It's such a shame they gave up on home 3D and stopped making the TVs. You can still find them second-hand, though, and there's always 3D headsets (but obviously that's no good if you want to watch stuff together with other people).

It's less availability of technology and more oh god, oh god the headaches make it stop.

Marmaduke wrote:I dunno, maybe the difference in correction between my eyes is spoiling the effect for me somehow or something. I’ve always thought it was super...meh.

I've always assumed that 3D doesn't work for me the way it does for some of my friends with glasses because both of my eyes are fucked up in different ways.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:40
by Magic J
I'm on the "meh" side of the spectrum for 3D films, but I've not seen very many. I think the higher price for a cinema ticket put me off, mostly. :P

I would like to see what sort of stuff could be done with vr films, though. There's one called "Ashes to Ashes" that seems interesting (in which you see from the "perspective" of an urn, and experience some family drama after a death in the family). Apparently, you can turn around to see the camera crew and watch the actors having a break "out of character". :lol: Sounds pretty funky. Must be quite challenging for directors, though.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:42
by Severelius
I've only ever seen 2 films in 3D. The 2014 Godzilla and the Doctor Who 50th Anniversary special.

Godzilla left me with a cracking headache by the end and the only reason I didn't get one during Doctor Who is presumably because it wasn't long enough for the pain to properly set in.

I've since seen both in standard 2D and enjoyed them a lot more without the gimmick, to be honest.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:46
by Marmaduke
Magic J wrote:I'm on the "meh" side of the spectrum for 3D films, but I've not seen very many. I think the higher price for a cinema ticket put me off, mostly. :P

I would like to see what sort of stuff could be done with vr films, though. There's one called "Ashes to Ashes" that seems interesting (in which you see from the "perspective" of an urn, and experience some family drama after a death in the family). Apparently, you can turn around to see the camera crew and watch the actors having a break "out of character". :lol: Sounds pretty funky. Must be quite challenging for directors, though.

Yeah, I think AR filmmaking has so much more potential in terms of immersion and storytelling creativity, but if glasses were too much then needing a whole headset is definitely gonna kill AR cinema before it even gets started.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:47
by René
Magic J wrote:I'm on the "meh" side of the spectrum for 3D films, but I've not seen very many. I think the higher price for a cinema ticket put me off, mostly. :P

In Barnsley where we used to live, the local independent cinema didn't charge extra for 3D movies as long as you brought your own glasses. I think it was always £5 or something. And we had almost-free Meerkat Movies to get 2-for-1 tickets, so basically we paid £2.50 each to see a 3D movie. :D

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:48
by Severelius
If they could make fully-immersive AR films though I would totally try it out because being able to physically stand in the scene and watch it play out from any angle is like my main sci-fi fantasy (that doesn't involve a time machine shaped like a police box at least) come true right there.

Actually I feel like that kind of tech would be best served for recordings of stage productions, to be honest. That way everything is kept to one specific enclosed 'set' area and things just move in and out of it as required. If they could make that a thing where you can virtually walk around the stage as the production is performed I'd be in fucking heaven.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 20:55
by Magic J
Yeah, it'd be cool to see what directors could make of it. Like, obviously constraining the viewer's perspective is a big part of cinematography, so I wonder what you could do with a less fixed perspective?

I've only tried an Occulus Rift set once. Had one at the museum I worked at for a while, playing a short "on rails" film of a Pictish settlement reconstruction. Seemed to be popular.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 21:01
by Severelius
This has just reminded me that I need to look into getting myself an Oculus Quest, the Oculus VR machine that doesn't need a powerful PC setup to work.

I always think I'd like a VR thing that plays just normal movies but when it plays them it puts you in a big virtual cinema environment. Cause I like being in a big empty cinema screen watching a movie on a big screen but I usually can't get an empty one except if I go to lame films in the middle of the weekday.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 21:08
by René
I love watching TV shows, YouTube videos and movies (2D or 3D) in my big empty virtual theatre on my phone-powered VR headset. Especially on long plane rides. :D

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 21:35
by Severelius
René wrote:I love watching TV shows, YouTube videos and movies (2D or 3D) in my big empty virtual theatre on my phone-powered VR headset. Especially on long plane rides. :D

I did not know this was a thing that existed on phones... I am intrigued.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 21:49
by Brenden
Severelius wrote:
René wrote:I love watching TV shows, YouTube videos and movies (2D or 3D) in my big empty virtual theatre on my phone-powered VR headset. Especially on long plane rides. :D

I did not know this was a thing that existed on phones... I am intrigued.

Samsung had a partnership with Oculus and produced VR headsets that several of their flagship phones could be put in, but I think they ended this as of the latest flagship phone.

I have a feeling VR is going the way of 3D.

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 21:54
by René
Brenden wrote:
Severelius wrote:
René wrote:I love watching TV shows, YouTube videos and movies (2D or 3D) in my big empty virtual theatre on my phone-powered VR headset. Especially on long plane rides. :D

I did not know this was a thing that existed on phones... I am intrigued.

Samsung had a partnership with Oculus and produced VR headsets that several of their flagship phones could be put in, but I think they ended this as of the latest flagship phone.

I have a feeling VR is going the way of 3D.

Yeah, that sucks.

Google also has/had a VR thing of its own, but Samsung's is/was more advanced.

I have a Galaxy S10 which still supports it. You can buy an S10 (or S9 or even S8), either new or used, and a new or used compatible Samsung Gear VR headset to still experience this without needing to either hook up a powerful computer or get an expensive standalone thing. (Expensive if you consider that it doesn't also net you a phone.)

Re: Film of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 26 November 2020, 21:55
by Severelius
I mean the Oculus Quest 2 comes with movie apps like Netflix and Amazon Prime so I'm more than satisfied just using that to be honest.