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The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 19:31
by Magic J
Wow-ee! It's the

LGBT+ Music Thread

In this thread we post LGBT+ music. A thread for music made by LGBT+ people, music with LGBT+ themes, about LGBT+ issues, or music that's simply become iconic in the community.

Posting anything by Lady Gaga is formally acceptable but... y'know... don't. Unless you're, like, a superfan. That's okay, then. You keep those paws up, and don't let anyone tell you that you ain't with it anymore. :P

Obvious first choice, and an absolute banger from Electric Six. Yup, it's "Gay Bar".



Or alternatively, if that's a bit too on the nose, how about "Smalltown Boy" by the Synthpop band Bronski Beat. It's a pretty powerful tune.



I actually have an old vinyl copy of the album, Age of Consent. The title refers to the discriminatory age of consent laws which were active in the UK from the 1960's until 2000, in which the legal age of consent for male homosexuals was set higher than that for heterosexuals. It also features a pink triangle on the back. Not a symbol you see so often anymore, and its use is somewhat controversial, but it refers to the pink fabric triangles which were sewn onto the uniforms of "sexually deviant" men who were imprisoned in the Nazi concentration camps.

So there's you're grim history revision. Sad now. How about a newer track from the wonderful Grace Petrie: lesbian folk singer extraordinaire and wearer of waistcoats - "Pride" Saw her when she played at a Hannah Gadsby gig. :D



Over to you! This is the first step in creating the largest repository of hella-gay cheesy pop tunes on the entire interwebs, and you can be a part of that.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 20:03
by Marmaduke
Ok, cool, I'll play.

I'll open with a pair of 80s gay trailblazers;


Klaus Nomi, unsurprisingly homosexual and a trailblazer of the early 80's apocalyptic synth rock opera circuit. I think, even at a time of amazingly diverse musical expression, Klaus pushed the boundaries and made you stop and think about what you were looking at. Doing it as a gay man, whilst arguably perpetuating certain damaging stereotypes at the time, did a lot for bringing LGBT people to the fore of public consciousness. Greatest countertenor in history.

Next up, another unmistakably distinctive vocalist and homo icon with what is my pick for the single greatest live rock performance of all time. I mean, the whole Live Aid set was iconic. But the lead into Hammer To Fall, and the conviction of the songs delivery? I defy you to find me a better live performance, a more iconic live performance. The indominable Freddie Mercury.



Slipping away from the 80s and iconic lead vocalists that died of complications arising from AIDS and into the 90s and a lead vocalist that I believe was only unfairly rumoured to have had HIV, I offer up Mr Michael Stipe. REM had several iconic songs that everyone knows, but my favourite would probably have to be;



Skipping a few years because I couldn't think of anyone;



I don't think I've ever bothered to check if Robyn is actually LGBT, nor will I ever because I don't think it matters. But narratively, we heard this, we related to it and identified our unrequited crushes on straight guys in the lyrics, and as a communty we appropriated the absolute fuck out if it. Robyn is the thinking gay's Gaga to this day.

Speaking of lyrical narrative;



I was surprised Cosmo Jarvis didn't do better with his music career. I think he's left it behind now. But this one gained some traction in the UK on it's release. One of the only songs I know of with an explcitily homosexual lyrical narrative, remarkably written and performed by a straight man.

And to close out, just because you basically told me I wasn't allowed, the Lady Gaga song I find most relatable;



I actually quite like a lot of her really pop stuff and this one is legitimately one of my favourites from her catalogue. Fight me if you don't like it

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 21:25
by Magic J
Marmaduke wrote:Klaus Nomi - Total Eclipse

Damn, Germany consistently comes out with really innovative music. I've never heard of this guy. I must know more.

Marmaduke wrote:Queen - Hammer to Fall

Easily one of the greatest rock bands in history. A lot of people don't seem to be that keen on their later stuff, and it doesn't get played as often, but there's some proper gems. I come back to one of their last songs a lot: "These Are The Days Of Our Lives", from Innuendo (1991). He must have been so sick at this point, but he still gave such a great performance, as always. Also, check out the waistcoat with his cats on it. :lol:



Marmaduke wrote:I don't think I've ever bothered to check if Robyn is actually LGBT, nor will I ever because I don't think it matters. But narratively, we heard this, we related to it and identified our unrequited crushes on straight guys in the lyrics, and as a communty we appropriated the absolute fuck out if it. Robyn is the thinking gay's Gaga to this day.

Omg, Robyn is amazing. :heart: I've probably done a fair proportion of that appropriating. I'm not entirely sure if she is, I've never checked, either. :shrug:

Also, she recently did a collaboration with Metronomy. :awesome: Probably not strictly within the theme of the thread, but Robyn gets a pass 'coz. She's. An. Icon.



Marmaduke wrote:Cosmo Jarvis - Gay Pirates

I was surprised Cosmo Jarvis didn't do better with his music career. I think he's left it behind now. But this one gained some traction in the UK on it's release. One of the only songs I know of with an explcitily homosexual lyrical narrative, remarkably written and performed by a straight man.

Another one I've not heard! Perfect. I've been told I kind of look like a pirate, so might just adopt this as my theme tune. :P

Marmaduke wrote:Lady Gaga - Swine

And to close out, just because you basically told me I wasn't allowed, the Lady Gaga song I find most relatable;

I actually quite like a lot of her really pop stuff and this one is legitimately one of my favourites from her catalogue. Fight me if you don't like it

You got me. I actually quite liked Lady Gaga when I was younger. Actually, that's an understatement, I loved Lady Gaga. I originally only pretended to like her music, because I was interested in this real pretty guy who was a mega-fan, but it grew on me pretty quickly. :lol:



I've not heard this banger for years. It's bringing back memories. Fuzzy, memories of alcohol fueled debauchery. Oh god... :wide-eyed:

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 21:44
by Marmaduke
Magic J wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:Klaus Nomi - Total Eclipse

Damn, Germany consistently comes out with really innovative music. I've never heard of this guy. I must know more.


He's definitely an icon, but a very hit and miss one. For instance, his song Lighting Strikes is pretty much the counter-anthem to the #MeToo movement :lol:



Magic J wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:Queen - Hammer to Fall

Easily one of the greatest rock bands in history. A lot of people don't seem to be that keen on their later stuff, and it doesn't get played as often, but there's some proper gems. I come back to one of their last songs a lot: "These Are The Days Of Our Lives", from Innuendo (1991). He must have been so sick at this point, but he still gave such a great performance, as always. Also, check out the waistcoat with his cats on it. :lol:



These Are The Days of Our Lives is so sad to me. Apparently, Mercury knew he was running out of time when he was recording it and could barely stand in the recording studio, instead having to prop himself up on the mixing desk to record the vocals. The video was shot in colour and edited into black and white to try and hide how much make up Freddie was wearing to hide how ill he'd become. It was the last thing he recorded with Queen and he died two months after it was released. The other members of Queen describe this song as his goodbye. :(

Magic J wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:I don't think I've ever bothered to check if Robyn is actually LGBT, nor will I ever because I don't think it matters. But narratively, we heard this, we related to it and identified our unrequited crushes on straight guys in the lyrics, and as a communty we appropriated the absolute fuck out if it. Robyn is the thinking gay's Gaga to this day.

Omg, Robyn is amazing. :heart: I've probably done a fair proportion of that appropriating. I'm not entirely sure if she is, I've never checked, either. :shrug:

Also, she recently did a collaboration with Metronomy. :awesome: Probably not strictly within the theme of the thread, but Robyn gets a pass 'coz. She's. An. Icon.



Omg, I love Metronomy. I mean, not strictly within the theme, but I haven't listened to them in ages. The English Riviera was a GREAT album.

Magic J wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:Cosmo Jarvis - Gay Pirates

I was surprised Cosmo Jarvis didn't do better with his music career. I think he's left it behind now. But this one gained some traction in the UK on it's release. One of the only songs I know of with an explcitily homosexual lyrical narrative, remarkably written and performed by a straight man.

Another one I've not heard! Perfect. I've been told I kind of look like a pirate, so might just adopt this as my theme tune. :P


The mental image I have of you doesn't read "pirate", I'll have to adjust with a scraggly beard and a sash around your waist.

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Marmaduke wrote:Lady Gaga - Swine

And to close out, just because you basically told me I wasn't allowed, the Lady Gaga song I find most relatable;

I actually quite like a lot of her really pop stuff and this one is legitimately one of my favourites from her catalogue. Fight me if you don't like it

You got me. I actually quite liked Lady Gaga when I was younger. Actually, that's an understatement, I loved Lady Gaga. I originally only pretended to like her music, because I was interested in this real pretty guy who was a mega-fan, but it grew on me pretty quickly. :lol:



I've not heard this banger for years. It's bringing back memories. Fuzzy, memories of alcohol fueled debauchery. Oh god... :wide-eyed:

I like this era, this vibe of Gaga. Unashamedly pop Gaga. I wasn't here for Joanne as an album. I'm happy she sounds to be coming back towards what she's good at.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 22:07
by Marmaduke
But yeah, continuing with more LGBT icons, as now some have come to mind;

My favourite Hamstead Heath visiting, cottaging afficionado and all notoriously frequent drink-driver. When I'm asked what my chosen Faith is, I always say the original.



I actually didn't even mind his more recent stuff, not that anyone ever actually heard any of it, I don't believe he charted well for a fair while before he died



I think my legit favourite would have to be Father Figure though. Couldn't tell you why. Soft spot for it.

Not to paint myself as too old, I promise, I will swing more contemporary. But we've touched on Queen. And we need to touch on Bowie. So we'll touch on them together.



Proof, if ever it were needed that a song doesn't need to make lyrical sense. Or, indeed, need lyrics any more complicated than "da da de dah day"



I'm gonna throw you a little Mark Ronson, partly because he had some sort of weird kind of coming out moment a few years ago, but mostly because nobody realises that the vocals on this track are Boy George, reminding us all that he's a pretty great vocalist in the hope that we'll forget that time he got charged with kidnap for handcuffing a rent boy to a radiator and not letting him leave.


I'm kinda sad that the Scissor Sisters aren't making music anymore. Miss Matronic is a host on BBC Radio these days. But even their later stuff I quite liked. Early days Scissor Sisters was where it was at though. Their first two albums were absolute jams.


Attractive female lesbian twins, just for you Erti. You're welcome. Bonus that the music is good and a lot of their catalogue has overt LGBT themes.

Reminds me that I found this the recently



Seems on theme. Gonna creep it back in. Just because.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 22:25
by Marmaduke
I wanna say Isaac Dunbar is gay, but I might just be unfairly labelling him. Either way, I've been stanning his work kinda hard this year. He's completely self-produced. Like, made his whole album in his bedroom self-produced, and it is such a vibe. If you like this song, get the album. Genuinely one of my picks for all of 2019. Listen to it.





Years & Years/Olly Alexander (Because who even are the other people in years & years, let's be honest) I think is a pretty good, pretty outspoken LGBT person and advocate. He's also a really talented singer, songwriter and performer. I always quite liked this stripped back cover.

And where that came into my head, it bought another live lounge cover into my head that I thought was wicked. By an artist who's sexuality is a source of great speculation, but is kinda a gay icon and has always been a pretty good LGBT advocate.



His self-titled debut album was kinda meh, bording on crap. But his recent sophomore effort, Fine Line is actually a really well put together, really interesting, genuinely good album. If you haven't heard it, put 1D to one side and give it a chance. It's worth it.

But yeah, I should probably stop hijacking your thread now. Sorry.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 22:36
by Marmaduke
Wait! No! One more!

Last one!

Probably.

But yeah, this the the song that I will forever associate with this forum and this forum is pretty gay.


Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 22:41
by Magic J
Marmaduke wrote:He's definitely an icon, but a very hit and miss one. For instance, his song Lighting Strikes is pretty much the counter-anthem to the #MeToo movement :lol:

There's so much from the 80's that's best left forgotten. :lol:

I've been reading up on him. Apparently he was David Bowie's backing singer for a slot on SNL. Bowie seems to be wearing Nomi's costume here.



Speaking of vaudeville-esque style music, kind of reminds me of Joel Gray as the MC in Cabaret. Incidentally, also gay, I think. He creeped me out so much when I was young. One of my favorite musicals now, though.



Marmaduke wrote:These Are The Days of Our Lives is so sad to me. Apparently, Mercury knew he was running out of time when he was recording it and could barely stand in the recording studio, instead having to prop himself up on the mixing desk to record the vocals. The video was shot in colour and edited into black and white to try and hide how much make up Freddie was wearing to hide how ill he'd become. It was the last thing he recorded with Queen and he died two months after it was released. The other members of Queen describe this song as his goodbye. :(

That look that May gives the camera at the end. Like, "well... that's it then.". :cry:

Marmaduke wrote:The mental image I have of you doesn't read "pirate", I'll have to adjust with a scraggly beard and a sash around your waist.

I think it's the bandanna I usually wear at work. Keeps the hair our of my face. It's really fucking long. Also the several earrings. :P

Marmaduke wrote:I like this era, this vibe of Gaga. Unashamedly pop Gaga. I wasn't here for Joanne as an album. I'm happy she sounds to be coming back towards what she's good at.

I didn't buy Joanne at the time. Heard a few songs from it and wasn't that keen. I'll probably pick up a second hand copy now to complete the collection. I'm probably end up liking it more after a few play throughs anyway. I like some of her stuff outside of her usual pop standards. I remember seeing a recording of her do a live show with some jazz singers where she sang and played piano. Was pretty good, but I can't really remember the details.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 26 March 2020, 22:56
by Magic J
Marmaduke wrote:George Michael - Faith

What a bop. I admit that I wore a crucifix earring for about six months in emulation. Didn't work. :lol:

Marmaduke wrote:I'm gonna throw you a little Mark Ronson, partly because he had some sort of weird kind of coming out moment a few years ago, but mostly because nobody realises that the vocals on this track are Boy George, reminding us all that he's a pretty great vocalist in the hope that we'll forget that time he got charged with kidnap for handcuffing a rent boy to a radiator and not letting him leave.

Holy shit! I forgot about that! Didn't he get charged with battery as well?

Speaking of which, wasn't he a trained boxer? Boy George is a totally mental drugged up killing machine. :noes:

Marmaduke wrote:I'm kinda sad that the Scissor Sisters aren't making music anymore. Miss Matronic is a host on BBC Radio these days. But even their later stuff I quite liked. Early days Scissor Sisters was where it was at though. Their first two albums were absolute jams.

I tune in for her sometimes. You know that Jake Shears is releasing solo stuff now, though?

Behold, Eryx's new theme tune:



EDIT: Hahaha, just noticed that "Be Gay. Do Crime" is spray-painted on a wall in the video! I hadn't seen that before. Coincidence!

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 27 March 2020, 00:15
by Magic J
Marmaduke wrote:Harry Styles - Juice

His self-titled debut album was kinda meh, bording on crap. But his recent sophomore effort, Fine Line is actually a really well put together, really interesting, genuinely good album. If you haven't heard it, put 1D to one side and give it a chance. It's worth it.

Huh. That's actually a really good cover. :glasses:

I just might have to give him another chance.

Get some Kate Tempest all up in this thread. Lesbian spoken word poet and musician.



From her third album, The Book of Traps and Lessons. Everybody should listen to her work, but if you're living in Britain, it'll chime even better. Unless you're not a fan of spoken word. I know a lot of people aren't. If you are, though, check out the album. "Hold Your Own" and "People's Faces" are really powerful tracks, I found.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 27 March 2020, 00:19
by erti
This is a video that makes me think lgbt community

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 27 March 2020, 00:27
by Magic J
erti wrote:t.A.T.u - Ya Soshla S Uma

Cool!

Must've been brave of them to release something like this in Russia. I assume the climate was pretty hostile even prior to the "anti-propaganda" laws.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 27 March 2020, 01:27
by erti
Magic J wrote:
erti wrote:t.A.T.u - Ya Soshla S Uma

Cool!

Must've been brave of them to release something like this in Russia. I assume the climate was pretty hostile even prior to the "anti-propaganda" laws.


There’s still controversy with homosexuality in Russia. I’ve heard stories about homosexuals, mainly openly gay men or seeming gay you could get jumped. I love this because well fuck homophobia. The funny thing is these women are straight according to their interviews.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 27 March 2020, 01:36
by Magic J
erti wrote:There’s still controversy with homosexuality in Russia. I’ve heard stories about homosexuals, mainly openly gay men or seeming gay you could get jumped. I love this because well fuck homophobia. The funny thing is these women are straight according to their interviews.

Oh God, yeah. Especially out in the Chechen area. Some really grim reports were coming out of there a while ago. :(

Related: Pussy Riot! They send the Cossack police out to beat them and their audience whenever they play. One of them might even have been poisoned by government agents. :gaping:



They're pretty outspoken LGBT advocates. They've got guts, man.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 27 March 2020, 01:57
by erti
Magic J wrote:
erti wrote:There’s still controversy with homosexuality in Russia. I’ve heard stories about homosexuals, mainly openly gay men or seeming gay you could get jumped. I love this because well fuck homophobia. The funny thing is these women are straight according to their interviews.

Oh God, yeah. Especially out in the Chechen area. Some really grim reports were coming out of there a while ago. :(

Related: Pussy Riot! They send the Cossack police out to beat them and their audience whenever they play. One of them might even have been poisoned by government agents. :gaping:



They're pretty outspoken LGBT advocates. They've got guts, man.


I’m all for lgbt activism. One of my favorite gay artist is Elton John. Rocket Man is my favorite by him. Also I enjoyed Eminem and Elton John thing with each other. The song stan they preformed together when Eminem was getting backlash for homophobic lyrics.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 27 March 2020, 14:13
by Magic J
Did somebody say Elton John? :awesome:

Another one from the 85 Live Aid concert:



Leaving Live Aid's somewhat sanctimonious and patronising tone aside, it must've been a crazy good concert.

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 28 March 2020, 00:51
by Magic J
Gloria Gaynor, where have you been? Here's "I Am What I Am".



Disco-ized cover version of the original from the musical La Cage aux Folles (often translated as "The Birdcage", but apparently is literally "The Cage of the Madwomen"), sung by George Hearn.

Also, another reminder: COVID19 is abroad. Wash your hands. :P

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 29 March 2020, 12:41
by Capt._Trips


All 4 characters sung about in this song are real and were all part of Andy Warhol's factory.


Every few months I find myself watching this video. Not sure why............ :monocle:

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 29 March 2020, 13:27
by Capt._Trips
It took me a while to find this. But I knew it existed. Kept mixing it up with the marilyn Manson song. :lol:

Re: The LGBT+ Music Thread

Unread postPosted: 29 March 2020, 14:50
by Magic J
Capt._Trips wrote:Lou Reed - Take a Walk on the Wild Side

You know, I've heard this song quite a few times, and I never realised what it was actually about! "Crossdressing prostitutes", for those too lazy to check the SongFacts page. :P


Capt._Trips wrote:PatD - Girls/Girls/Boys

Every few months I find myself watching this video. Not sure why...

Yeah... same. :lol:

Capt._Trips wrote:Faith No More - Be Aggressive

Ooh, this genre switch leads nicely onto Rob. Motherfucking Halford. :awesome:



Gay frontman of Judas Priest. Seen here strutting around and being the sexiest man alive for four whole minutes. His costumes were always great. :lol:

Also, I... think I like leather now? :|