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Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 3 September 2022, 17:41
by Severelius
I said I wasn't interested but the curiosity got the better of me so I checked out the first 2 episodes of The Rings of Power.

And honestly? I'm not a huge Tolkien fan so I'm not taking into account the lore loyalty or what the fuck ever else. With that in mind it's.... it's okay. Visually it looks incredible but honestly I'm not sold on anything else about it. It didn't do enough to turn me off, but it didn't exactly hit my prostate with excitement either, you know?

Just kind of average. Which might be the worst thing it could be. A masterpiece or a trainwreck both have stuff to talk about but an average experience is just kind of nothing. It sure is a show that exists.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 4 September 2022, 05:12
by McTaggartfan
Severelius wrote:I said I wasn't interested but the curiosity got the better of me so I checked out the first 2 episodes of The Rings of Power.

And honestly? I'm not a huge Tolkien fan so I'm not taking into account the lore loyalty or what the fuck ever else. With that in mind it's.... it's okay. Visually it looks incredible but honestly I'm not sold on anything else about it. It didn't do enough to turn me off, but it didn't exactly hit my prostate with excitement either, you know?

Just kind of average. Which might be the worst thing it could be. A masterpiece or a trainwreck both have stuff to talk about but an average experience is just kind of nothing. It sure is a show that exists.


Traitorous monster.

I’m thoroughly disappointed, even if you shouldn’t care one way or another about that.

And it isn’t a matter of being a Tolkien fan or not, so much as it is of having good taste and sticking up for the honor and dignity of the man and his writings.

And it shouldn’t have been a question of whether you were interested in the show or not. It’s a matter of great principle—hence my anger at your fair-weather respect for Tolkien (if any shred of respect you ever possessed at all!).

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 4 September 2022, 15:11
by Severelius
On the subject of TV adaptations that hopefully I won't get shouted at for watching, I just decided to finally get around to watching Amazon's other fantasy adaptation, that being The Wheel of Time.

And honestly, I prefer it to Rings of Power though I'm reasonably sure that's due mostly to my love of the novels. Rings of Power looks better, for damn sure, but that's because it had all the money in the known universe thrown at it while Wheel of Time was made with whatever spare change Jeff Bezos found down the back of his couch the morning of the pitch meeting.

There's changes. Quite a few, and I feel like there's just gonna be more and more as the story goes on. Some very minor things like re-writing incredibly minor characters who serve no larger purpose to give a bit more character and motivation to the main cast, and changing some circumstances to make it work more in a visual medium which I'm okay with. Like giving one main lead a wife he never had in the books or making one of their mums a drunk lunatic.

They aged the main characters up, which is to be expected in what's planned to be a long-running series. One thing that slightly bugged me is they re-worked the premise of the 'Dragon Reborn' of the story to increase some mystery despite the fact that doing so makes no sense in the universe of this story. But it's a minor complaint at best.

A couple of the main characters have been changed a bit. Moiraine has gone from the book's enigmatic mysterious Aes Sedai who frustrated everyone around her to no end because she never told them jack shit and when she did it was as vague as possible to a very up-front no-nonsense exposition factory. Mat's gone from the least trusting of her and kind of a wanker in the books to a pretty reasonable kind-hearted snarker. The Trollocs all look the same instead of the individual uniqueness they had in the books but that's quite obviously a budgetary thing no doubt and they still look fucking messed up so I can roll with it.

So at the moment despite the alterations and abridgements it's made and will no doubt continue to make to the story I love so much in novel form it is still, in the early going, recognisably The Wheel of Time and I'm enjoying myself with it.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 4 September 2022, 20:40
by Magic J
Severelius wrote:I said I wasn't interested but the curiosity got the better of me so I checked out the first 2 episodes of The Rings of Power.

Meh, I might give it a look, too. I feel like I might just finish the first episode and then go back to watching LoTR for the seven hundredth time.

Watched the first two episodes of House of the Dragon. It seems alright, but I'm getting the feeling that it's not going to be nearly as clever as GoT. It's all happening very fast. Crunch points which would have taken a whole series of development in the pre-terrible period of GoT seem to have been reached by the second episode.

Every single one of the Targaryens are absolutely horrible little toads, though, so that's fun to watch.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 4 September 2022, 22:25
by Severelius
Update after now having seen all of The Wheel of Time: Episode 8 kind of fucking lost me, honestly.

I was mostly on board with the changes and revisions and abridgements the show had been making up to the endgame. They kind of made sense to trim the story down to a manageable size and pace cause I love Robert Jordan but man sometimes the dude waffled like crazy to get anywhere.

But then it feels like episode 8 just kind of went 'fuck it' and decided to change pretty fucking huge and significant details going into the cliffhanger seemingly for no valid reason outside of... I dunno, to catch book readers off guard? That's the only fucking reason I can think of for why they did some of this. The book ending was dramatic enough on its own without needing to be completely overhauled.

Changing the very nature of some characters altogether, leaving some out, putting others where they don't belong, killing others, and massively fucking with yet more others while also kind of screwing the plot over from how it played out originally.

Just... it was going so well, Amazon. Why?

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 7 September 2022, 06:10
by McTaggartfan
Magic J wrote:
Severelius wrote:I said I wasn't interested but the curiosity got the better of me so I checked out the first 2 episodes of The Rings of Power.

Meh, I might give it a look, too. I feel like I might just finish the first episode and then go back to watching LoTR for the seven hundredth time.

Watched the first two episodes of House of the Dragon. It seems alright, but I'm getting the feeling that it's not going to be nearly as clever as GoT. It's all happening very fast. Crunch points which would have taken a whole series of development in the pre-terrible period of GoT seem to have been reached by the second episode.

Every single one of the Targaryens are absolutely horrible little toads, though, so that's fun to watch.


You, too, should be ashamed then. How could you so much as even consider watching it? I should think it a remarkably repugnant thing to do.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 7 September 2022, 14:41
by LokiLover87
I'm watching the new episodes of Komi Can't Communicate and just started a new K-Drama called Once Upon A Small Town. So far, enjoying both.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 7 September 2022, 19:25
by Magic J
McTaggartfan wrote:You, too, should be ashamed then. How could you so much as even consider watching it? I should think it a remarkably repugnant thing to do.

It's a good thing that I'm a remarkably repugnant person, then.

But fine. Why? Is it because of the lack of bearded female dwarves? Fair enough, if so. We were promised there'd be swimming with little hairy women, and this had been cruelly denied. Tolkein is positively centrufugal down there.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 8 September 2022, 22:00
by PopTart
Watching Glow up. Quite into it.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 8 September 2022, 22:32
by René
Recently finished Sand Man season 1. It was really good.
Also Obi-Wan season 1. I quite enjoyed that too.

Now watching:
  • Star Trek: Lower Decks season 3
  • Atypical season 4
  • Stranger Things season 4
  • Grace and Frankie season 7
  • Crusade

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 07:57
by McTaggartfan
Magic J wrote:
McTaggartfan wrote:You, too, should be ashamed then. How could you so much as even consider watching it? I should think it a remarkably repugnant thing to do.

It's a good thing that I'm a remarkably repugnant person, then.

But fine. Why? Is it because of the lack of bearded female dwarves? Fair enough, if so. We were promised there'd be swimming with little hairy women, and this had been cruelly denied. Tolkein is positively centrufugal down there.


Oh, you know what, go fuck yourself. You and Steve are two miserable and dishonorable wretches to whom I feel not the slightest need to justify myself. If you really must understand, speak to James, since he largely, if not completely, understands why the Amazon series is a disgusting piece of shit. I cannot speak more on the subject, lest I lose myself and say worse things to you.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 08:42
by Marmaduke
McTaggartfan wrote:
Magic J wrote:
McTaggartfan wrote:You, too, should be ashamed then. How could you so much as even consider watching it? I should think it a remarkably repugnant thing to do.

It's a good thing that I'm a remarkably repugnant person, then.

But fine. Why? Is it because of the lack of bearded female dwarves? Fair enough, if so. We were promised there'd be swimming with little hairy women, and this had been cruelly denied. Tolkein is positively centrufugal down there.


Oh, you know what, go fuck yourself. You and Steve are two miserable and dishonorable wretches to whom I feel not the slightest need to justify myself. If you really must understand, speak to James, since he largely, if not completely, understands why the Amazon series is a disgusting piece of shit. I cannot speak more on the subject, lest I lose myself and say worse things to you.

Not break the habit in consciously avoiding talking to you, but I think it’s perhaps time you log off for the day and go to bed. You’ve had too much to drink.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 09:03
by McTaggartfan
Marmaduke wrote:
McTaggartfan wrote:
Magic J wrote:
McTaggartfan wrote:You, too, should be ashamed then. How could you so much as even consider watching it? I should think it a remarkably repugnant thing to do.

It's a good thing that I'm a remarkably repugnant person, then.

But fine. Why? Is it because of the lack of bearded female dwarves? Fair enough, if so. We were promised there'd be swimming with little hairy women, and this had been cruelly denied. Tolkein is positively centrufugal down there.


Oh, you know what, go fuck yourself. You and Steve are two miserable and dishonorable wretches to whom I feel not the slightest need to justify myself. If you really must understand, speak to James, since he largely, if not completely, understands why the Amazon series is a disgusting piece of shit. I cannot speak more on the subject, lest I lose myself and say worse things to you.

Not break the habit in consciously avoiding talking to you, but I think it’s perhaps time you log off for the day and go to bed. You’ve had too much to drink.


Ugh, so you say, but you’ve never had my best interest at heart, Marmie! Okay, maybe that’s not strictly speaking true, but I like to think it is, because it makes reading your post easier. And in any case, I’ve already avowed myself to be against any who would so much as consider watching that abomination of a show, and I am, after all, beyond all else a man of my word.

[Edit] More wine! For as that dearest of men, Pliny the Elder, once wrote, “in vino veritas!”

[2nd edit] And how funny you should break your great and marvelous silence now of all times! I was just writing of you to Rene, but all good things, I assure you!

[3rd edit] Not that I’ve stopped drinking or anything, because that won’t happen until a certain condition is fulfilled, which I shan’t mention, since everyone will complain of me otherwise—ha! as though they don’t already! But, but, but, my dearest Marmie, please do write in proper English to me when I’m drunk; for you I’d normally refrain from commenting on your errors, but it does indeed become harder to resist when I’m drunk.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 09:55
by Marmaduke
No, silly me. You’re quite right. Your having an extreme position on a television program you’ve never actually seen is completely understandable. It’s not at all tedious or transparently pretentious. What could be more worthy of religious fervour and blind zealotry than our Grandparent’s equivalent of Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (Zeal being the order of the day, let’s not sully the great vision of Rowling with mention of sorcerers)? May all generations that follow meet any further consideration of making her work more known and accessible with a similarly impassioned knee-jerk reaction.

By all means, drink on. Just afford us the courtesy that any good local drunk offers the people of the village; recognise when it’s time to take stage left and retire to a quiet park bench. The charity of those you force to abide you is not without limit.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 10:02
by McTaggartfan
Marmaduke wrote:No, silly me. You’re quite right. Your having an extreme position on a television program you’ve never actually seen is completely understandable. It’s not at all tedious or transparently pretentious. What could be more worthy of religious fervour and blind zealotry than our Grandparent’s equivalent of Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (Zeal being the order of the day, let’s not sully the great vision of Rowling with mention of sorcerers)? May all generations that follow meet any further consideration of making her work more known and accessible with a similarly impassioned knee-jerk reaction.

By all means, drink on. Just afford us the courtesy that any good local drunk offers the people of the village; recognise when it’s time to take stage left and retire to a quiet park bench. The charity of those you force to abide you is not without limit.


Then let me be forced from the pub, Marmie.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 10:09
by McTaggartfan
McTaggartfan wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:No, silly me. You’re quite right. Your having an extreme position on a television program you’ve never actually seen is completely understandable. It’s not at all tedious or transparently pretentious. What could be more worthy of religious fervour and blind zealotry than our Grandparent’s equivalent of Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (Zeal being the order of the day, let’s not sully the great vision of Rowling with mention of sorcerers)? May all generations that follow meet any further consideration of making her work more known and accessible with a similarly impassioned knee-jerk reaction.

By all means, drink on. Just afford us the courtesy that any good local drunk offers the people of the village; recognise when it’s time to take stage left and retire to a quiet park bench. The charity of those you force to abide you is not without limit.


Then let me be forced from the pub, Marmie.


Perhaps then I’ll finally kill myself, as I know I should’ve succeeded in doing some time ago.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 10:12
by McTaggartfan
Oh, and thank you so much Marmie, your terribly kind and considerate comments have finally given me the needed impetus to do what I was hoping to do while drunk.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 10:14
by Marmaduke
McTaggartfan wrote:
McTaggartfan wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:No, silly me. You’re quite right. Your having an extreme position on a television program you’ve never actually seen is completely understandable. It’s not at all tedious or transparently pretentious. What could be more worthy of religious fervour and blind zealotry than our Grandparent’s equivalent of Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (Zeal being the order of the day, let’s not sully the great vision of Rowling with mention of sorcerers)? May all generations that follow meet any further consideration of making her work more known and accessible with a similarly impassioned knee-jerk reaction.

By all means, drink on. Just afford us the courtesy that any good local drunk offers the people of the village; recognise when it’s time to take stage left and retire to a quiet park bench. The charity of those you force to abide you is not without limit.


Then let me be forced from the pub, Marmie.


Perhaps then I’ll finally kill myself, as I know I should’ve succeeded in doing some time ago.

I’m not the man to emotionally blackmail, which I do acknowledge must be frustrating for one such as you with nothing to fall back on but emotional abuse, but I don’t care one way or the other about you. I don’t know you. Why would I? You could do it and all I’d actually believe is that you just went away to hold your breath like the 6 year old you emotionally are. Grow up.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 10:15
by Marmaduke
McTaggartfan wrote:Oh, and thank you so much Marmie, your terribly kind and considerate comments have finally given me the needed impetus to do what I was hoping to do while drunk.

You know what they say; third time’s the charm.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 11:56
by Marmaduke
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