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Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 11:56
by Marmaduke
Wow, Episode 3 really jumped into the big foreboding characters. Númenor is a real visual treat though, and it’s such nice attention to detail that all the architecture and colour palettes fit so cohesively with Peter Jackson’s Gondor.

I’m even starting to be able to get past Lenny Henry and just see the character, though those harfoots are surpringly cut-throat bunch. Do we think that’s Gandalf? I think it’s maybe a bit too obvious, but also super obviously is? Dunno. Hope so.

Also, Halbrand is deffo going to be a big arc if this goes across a few series. He’s gonna be the anti-Aragorn. Reclaimer of a birthright, but turns evil, gets a ring of power and eventually becomes one of the Nazgûl.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 13:50
by Severelius
I thought they'd hit peak visual design and grandiose reveal with Khazad-Dum. Then this episode with Númenor... holy god. You can definitely see how this show cost so much, because jesus.

I don't think the Stranger is Gandalf. I won't be surprised if it does turn to out to be Gandalf, but I kind of don't want it to be. I feel like he should be logically one of the other wizards that we don't know shit about. But I'm also basically expecting it to be Gandalf because name recognition. The big twist would be if it turns out to be Saruman instead.

My biggest problem with this show so far is just the same fate that awaits every prequel. In that we know how a lot of this will end in the grand scheme of things. They're making a big deal out of what's happening in the Southlands but... we know how that goes. So there's little drama in the storyline about potentially trying to stop that danger.

Also, is my understanding of the timeline of Middle Earth completely fucked or is it weird that Isildur is a character in this? I feel like it's probably be misremembering or misunderstanding the timeline somehow, but it kept nagging at me.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 14:15
by Magic J
Severelius wrote:Also, is my understanding of the timeline of Middle Earth completely fucked or is it weird that Isildur is a character in this? I feel like it's probably be misremembering or misunderstanding the timeline somehow, but it kept nagging at me.

I think you're correct, they said they'd be squashing the timeline. Isildur lived for, I think, a couple hundred years at the end of the Second Age and beginning of the Third Age (indeed, he ushered in the Third Age by felling Sauron). I'm pretty sure the Rings were made long before Isildur's birth. It's been a long time since I've cracked open my Tolkein Illustrated Encyclopedia, though, so could be wrong. :P

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 19:30
by Severelius
In light of recent events I'm kind of tempted to give The Crown another go. I never did get far into it the first time.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 9 September 2022, 22:26
by René
Severelius wrote:In light of recent events I'm kind of tempted to give The Crown another go. I never did get far into it the first time.

I do recommend it.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 23 September 2022, 08:23
by Marmaduke
I thought “you’re not a peril” was ham-fisted foreshadowing, but then this episode really beat me around the head with it. I guess now we know why the Harfoots are so front and centre in the narrative; the stranger is Sauron.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 12 October 2022, 20:15
by René
Just started re-rewatching Frasier. One of my favourite shows of all time :awesome:

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 13 October 2022, 12:31
by Brenden
Marmaduke wrote:I thought “you’re not a peril” was ham-fisted foreshadowing, but then this episode really beat me around the head with it. I guess now we know why the Harfoots are so front and centre in the narrative; the stranger is Sauron.

That makes no sense. Sauron is already active, scheming behind the scenes, since Celebrimbor is already working to forge rings.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 13 October 2022, 13:04
by Marmaduke
Brenden wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:I thought “you’re not a peril” was ham-fisted foreshadowing, but then this episode really beat me around the head with it. I guess now we know why the Harfoots are so front and centre in the narrative; the stranger is Sauron.

That makes no sense. Sauron is already active, scheming behind the scenes, since Celebrimbor is already working to forge rings.

Ok, so, I can concede that the more I think about it, the more I maybe got over-excited, but…Sauron is missing, nobody knows where he is or if he’s alive, they just suspect it’s him. Adar even already said he killed Sauron, but we all know you can’t just kill Sauron. I think the stranger is maybe his reincarnation. Those three creepy looking people searching for him are searching for Sauron, knowing he’s reincarnated but won’t have his memory back yet.

Everyone else is totes betting on Halbrand for Sauron, but nahhhhh, Halbrand is the The Witch King of Angmar. I think, or hope, the Stranger is totes the big bad. From when his meteor landed and the above shot looked like the flaming eye, the foreshadowing has hit you again and again. They’ve already admitted that the story isn’t exactly as Tolkien wrote it, they’ve had to take some artistic license because they’re only actually licensed to reference characters that appear in the Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings. Characters that appear solely in the silmarillion are off limits, Amazon couldn’t get the licensing agreement in place. That in mind, I think they’ve reframed the starting of the forge and the search for the mithril as a response to the tree dying and them fearing an existential threat.

Now, on the other side of the coin, Amazon are gonna wanna milk this for at least 27 seasons, so revealing Sauron this early on that basis would be stupid. The way they’ve set it up, he could totes be one of the blue wizards, but Amazon aren’t even licensed to mention them.

So yeah, I’m gonna accept that the odds are longer than I initially thought, but I’m gonna stick with it. The Stranger is Sauron, soon to be named Annatar, the big bad wolf in disguise.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 14 October 2022, 11:30
by Marmaduke
Ok, so yeah. Opening of that episode, I knew I was wrong. The stranger must be an original character. Still, I was briefly hopeful that the writing was just that bad if only to allow me to be smug about it.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 16 October 2022, 08:39
by Brenden
The Stranger is Gandalf! Who in the books uses the word “peril” a bunch. And at the end of the episode he had the same line about following his nose as he used in Moria with the Fellowship.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 19 October 2022, 09:35
by Severelius
The Stranger being Gandalf is one of those things that makes obvious sense... but I still find myself instinctively fucking hating it. I mean it would explain this ancient wizard's obsession with bothering Hobbits with his nonsense thousands of years later. But I really hoped they'd avoid roping in Gandalf for the obvious fan-service angle. Cause let's be real, fan-service is the only reason the Stranger is Gandalf. It could have been any other wizard and nothing would change.

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Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 2 November 2022, 05:51
by FourJo
Just started watching Breaking Bad, I know it's an old one, but anyway

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 2 November 2022, 10:41
by PopTart
Watched House of the Dragon. The full series. I had low expectations but damn did the show pull it off, I'm hooked and bummed that we won't get a season 2 until 2024 :blargh: :argh:

Paddy Considine was fantastic as Viserys, you really got the impression of a good man, being a bad king. Loved his family but just couldn't see the problems his own actions were creating and unable to accept that his own family were a bunch of shitheels. Loved it.

Eve Best was also a stand our performance as Rhaenys Targaryen. She had some real onscreen presence and I really liked her character.

Milly Alcock as young Princess Rhaenyra was also great. She really had some fire and brought the young, determined and idealistic princess alive.

And Olivia Cooke was truly phenomenal as adult Queen Alicent Hightower.

My only criticism of the show, has been the tendency to soften some of the characters and make their motivations seem more grey than they were portrayed in the books. I figure they want both sides of the upcoming civil war to have fans and supporters. For it not to be a clear cut good guys/bad guys kind of deal. Buy honestly, they have no problem showing Daemon as the arsehole he is, with the occasional lovable side. They rob characters such as Aemon and Alicent of their resolve as characters by trying to make them more empathetic characters rather than portraying them as people will to undertake extreme actions for their own agenda. :shrug:

But the show managed to salvage my opinion about the Game of Thrones universe so that's no mean feat.

I also didn't mind the time jumps too much. They we much more obvious that the timeline hoping of Withcher season 1 (where the main cast don't age)

I feel that fleshing out the e tire reign of Viserys would have required far too much filler and material written entirely by people other than GRR Martin. Frankly I'd like them to cleave as closely to the source material as is reasonable this time around.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 2 November 2022, 11:10
by PopTart
Also watched the first 3 episodes of Rings of Power and frankly, found it to be awful. :lol:

I found the writing to largely be terrible. Very inconsistent in terms of quality. Characters too were inconsistent. Plot lines were dead eyed and obvious. It's a shame because it could have been so good. The scenery, lighting and visuals in general were brilliant, but so much of everything else was awful. I've followed the plot developments after with short episodes breakdowns on YouTube and all I can say is, I agree with the majority of criticism of the show, regarding pacing, writing and characterisation.

Some performances were so clichéd too. Not sure if that was the dialogue or the delivery though.

Poor Morfydd Clark may be permanently tainted in my eyes in future roles, simply because I found her character so unlikeable, both in how she was written and in how she was portrayed.

Charles Edwards and Robert Aramayo as Celebrimbor and Elrond respectively, sometimes came across as try hards in certain scenes, trying to deliver gravitas but instead seemed hammy, but not in a good way. :shrug:

Ultimately, I found the characters unlikeable in a different way from HOT D. While HOT D had despicable characters I loved to hate, RoP had bad characters that are just poorly written and I'd have been happy to see get less screen time. Add that to the ponderous pace of the story and urgh. No thanks.

Up next, the husband and I are watching Midnight Mass, 3 episodes in and the hubby is low key annoyed that I've guessed all the major plot twists before they happen. He's seen it already :lol:

It's not my fault they sign post this shit too much.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 5 November 2022, 21:15
by Marmaduke
Watched the first few episodes of The Old Man.

Dunno if it’s just the sheer weight of Bridges and Lithgow charisma, but I really like it. Deffo worth a look if you like a bit of espionage drama. It’s essentially retirement age Jason Bourne vibes but, as derivative TV dramas go, I’m here for it.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 7 November 2022, 13:13
by Brenden
René and I started watching The Gilded Age while we had access to HBO Max at his brother's place.

I've been watching the latest season of Fargo, but it's just not very gripping and I've pretty much lost interest.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 11 November 2022, 21:54
by Severelius
On season 4 of Star Trek: Enterprise in my oft-delayed quest to watch all of Star Trek in timeline order. This show really improved with season 3 and season 4 is really good so far too.

I am now in the position where quite soon I'm going to need to decide if I get a Paramount+ subscription to watch Discovery and Strange New Worlds or if I just torrent them like a dirty, dirty criminal.

Re: TV Show of the Moment

Unread postPosted: 23 November 2022, 12:48
by Subra
1899, so far so good.